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To: Ilaine who wrote (204514)	9/27/2006 9:35:58 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Huh? Where did you get that? I immediately remembered mentioning minimum wage and Toyota but didn't think I had said Toyota was paying minimum wage. Sure enough, you stretched a point quite a long way. <Japan has done much better with chequebook power than military power. Even though they lost the war, they have suffered no invasion. They have a lot of Americans as employees, many on MINIMUM WAGE no doubt. The USA won the war and is working for Japan. Toyota is about the biggest car company now and General Motors and Ford are in trouble.> The point was that Japan lost, but Americans are now working for them. The minimum wage point is trivial. But no doubt true. You obviously misunderstood. That doesn't say <you said that US workers in Toyota factories were making minimum wage. I'm sure there are some minimum wage workers, but not many in a high-capital value car factory I'll agree. Mostly robots! In fact, in production jobs they start at $15/hr and range upward. Average Toyota labor charges = $43/hour (which includes benefits). Yes, Japan is well off after WWII, after we destroyed their country (their choice) and rebuilt them in our own image (our choice). > The USA didn't rebuild Japan. CB, that's absurd. Japanese people worked dawn to dusk and late into the night, for decades and did high quality work, and sold for cheap prices. The USA provided a constitution which has been voluntarily maintained for decades. Also, you didn't rebuild Japan in your own image. Japan is very, very distinct from the USA. Oddly, it reminds me of Britain in the good old days, before massive immigration broke the queue and good manners. Also, you didn't really destroy Japan. There was a great deal left and nearly all the people, though there was quite a ding in the male population of the fighting age group. Japan rebuilt itself - the USA didn't do it. Mqurice