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To: carranza2 who wrote (1945)	9/28/2006 11:45:24 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 10087

My perception of our ME policy is that we're hoping to have it both ways, stand by Israel at the same time that we keep a good relationship with oil producing Muslim countries. Anybody old enough to remember the oil-producing Muslim countries embargoing oil to the US in 1973, during the Yom Kippur War (Egypt and Syria attacked Israel) in order to force us to stop backing Israel remembers how painful it was, how harmful it was to the US economy for oil prices to shoot up from 38 cents a gallon to 55 cents a gallon practically overnight. In 2006 dollars, that's a jump from $1.50 a gallon to $2.50 a gallon. Those numbers, by the way, come from Wickipedia, I remember prices being higher, but I gave away my car and used a bicycle. Personally, I am a lot more disgusted at kissing up to autocratic hell holes like Egypt and Saudi Arabia than I am at support for Israel. The perception that Israel exists only because the US supports it is just another fairy tale they tell themselves to make themselves feel better because all of them put together are unable to eradicate a tiny country full of Jews. Israel was kicking their collective asses before the US ever gave them military assistance. And no, I am not particularly fond of Israel. I think the British handled the partition abysmally, and the country should have evolved organically, but it's done so we just have to make the best of a bad situation. The Arab way of fighting, if you're losing run away until you're stronger, then come back, bit them on the ass. Their way of getting stronger is have more babies. The Israelis used the time to consolidate their position, build an army, defensive weapons, offensive weapons, infrastructure. No matter how fast the Palestinians make more babies, all they're raising is more cannon fodder. Not smart. The Iranians, who are not Arabs (they're Persians) are smarter at this type of thing. A well placed nuclear explosion would render much of the struggle for turf in that area moot for a very long time. They would also kill a lot of Palestinians but nobody seems to love the Palestinians anyway.