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To: TimF who wrote (29356)	9/28/2006 11:28:24 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541355

Everything I see on socialism refers to nationalized means of production, which is not on the Democratic agenda and hasn't been for.... I can't even remember when it might have been, unless you count healthcare, which is a service delivery sector rather than production. It still comes back to the role of government to shape the economy and society, which both parties back in practice nowadays, even if the rhetoric sometimes diverges. Socialism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Socialism refers to a broad array of doctrines or political movements that envisage a socio-economic system in which property and the distribution of wealth are subject to social control.[1] As an economic system, socialism is associated with state or collective ownership of the means of production. This control may be either direct, exercised through popular collectives such as workers' councils, or it may be indirect, exercised on behalf of the people by the state. The modern socialist movement had its origin largely in the working class movement of the late-19th century. In this period, the term "socialism" was first used in connection with European social critics who condemned capitalism and private property. For Karl Marx, who helped establish and define the modern socialist movement, socialism implied the abolition of money, markets, capital, and labor as a commodity. It is difficult to make generalizations about the diverse array of doctrines and movements that have been referred to as "socialist," for the various adherents of contemporary socialist movements do not agree on a common doctrine or program. As a result, the movement has split into different and sometimes opposing branches, particularly between moderate socialists and communists. Since the 19th century, socialists have differed in their vision of socialism as a system of economic organization. Some socialists have championed the complete nationalization of the means of production, or decentralized collective ownership in the form of cooperatives or workers' councils. Social democrats have proposed selective nationalization of key industries within the framework of mixed economies. Stalinists insisted on the creation of Soviet-style command economies under strong central state direction. Others advocate "market socialism," in which social control of property exists within the framework of market economics and private property.