Hey you can come to Vancouver any time and attack Pakustanis, so why advocate the USA attack them over there? They are warring against us over here and no one says a word. Drive down any street in East Vancouver and you can hear gunfire at night. Why do people apologise for this? Vancouver sucks as a city now thanks to people who come here and can't control their kids. This city used to be safe and relatively crime free and no one had guns. All across Canada South Asian and South East Asians are ruining our country with violence.
I was the subject of just such hate here on SI. I was physically threatened by a poster on one of the investment forums and then banned by loantech, the thread moderator, when I complained about it and he did nothing.
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asianpacificpost.com
From ballots to bullets in the Indo-Canadian community
Thu, July 11 2002
So now they have buried Robbie Kandola, another statistic in the on-going cycle of violence in Vancouver's Indo-Canadian community.
He has become another classic case of a young life stopped on the streets of Vancouver by a hail of bullets.
The police, who appear powerless to stop this killing spree came out last month to hold a forum in a very public attempt to involve the community in their investigation. If anything has come out of Kandola's murder in June, it is that those blaming the youth for the violence don't have the complete picture.
Police have now documented more than 50 murders involving Vancouver area's large Indo-Canadian community. These assassinations in night clubs, drive-by shootings and attacks at family gatherings has created a climate of fear, with witnesses unwilling to come forward and families forced to hire extra security guards for normally joyous events such as weddings.
The words "gangs" and "drugs" time and again tumble out of the stories by the media and the police, both of whom are seeking to explain the motives for the killings. Neither, however, has publicly accounted for the undertow of violence and factionalism stirring deeper through the troubled heart of the Indo-Canadian community.
It may be shocking and some may say racist, but when you dissect these murders you will eventually find many of the problems in the Lower Mainland's Sikh community are tributaries flowing out of their temples. It is here that the so-called rival 'drug' or 'gang' factions first came to life.
Police point to the two separate 1994 killings of brothers Ron and Jimmy Dosanjh, reputed drug kingpins, as the start of the current cycle of violence. The brothers, both leading members of the International Sikh Youth Federation, made no bones about their devotion to the cause for an independent Sikh state in India, and moreover in their involvement with the Ross Street Temple and the fight for its control.
Throughout most of the 90's, the temple, like Guru Nanak Temple on Surrey's Scott Road, was under the strain of conflict between rival community groups seeking to control its cash flow and power base. These camps mainstream media would dub 'moderates' and 'fundamentalists', according to misperceived allegiances to the struggle for an independent state, Khalistan, in India.
Street thugs like Bindy Johal, who was eventually killed in Vancouver's Paladium night club in December 1998, were recruited by these camps to show muscle, and provide intimidation, a la third world banana republics. It wasn't uncommon for renowned toughs to receive the accolades and blessings of temple priests and senior community leaders by day and then their blind eye by night as the same young men peddled drugs as petty dealers.
Ultimately, 'moderate' parties would take control of the Ross Street Temple, and Surrey's Guru Nanak, thanks no doubt in part to the violent fervour of their youth recruits.
As moderate leaders have settled nicely on their thrones atop temple committees, and the conflict for control of temples has waned with rival camps setting up their own edifices, the death and destruction wrought by the next generation of Indo-Canadians has not waned, but escalated tragically. In fact, many of the men who have died or been involved in the street violence come directly from the various 'moderate' families controlling Lower Mainland's temples.
Listless, and glutted by the endless financial support of their parents, these young men continue the gun play and violence, only now over issues as trivial as cheating girlfriends, or even caste differences.
The fact that many of the young men who have died in the recent past are known to police as petty dealers, and felons, is often incidental to their premature deaths. Though many had risky dealings and links with disreputable people, the young men on the most part were not career criminals, or members of established gangs. Some were even professionals with university accreditation and posts as public school teachers.
They were kids, who easily hypnotised by the glory of violence, believed in its efficacy as tacitly supported by their parents and religious leaders. Now with their parents no longer able to control them, and not knowing what or whom to believe, they have cloaked their struggle with boredom beneath vicious masks of bravado and turned on one another, and no doubt will continue to do so.
What began as a fight between their parents and religious leaders over money has become a cancer slowly taking one young man at a time to his grave. The community leaders who show up to public forums and lament the violence are as much to blame as the boys packing their guns, and they must be held accountable.
A share of the blame also belongs to municipal and provincial politicians who toady up to 'moderate' and 'fundamentalist' slates for votes come election time but then conveniently avoid casting blame on Indo-Canadian leaders for their own role in perpetuating the violence of their children.
The current pack of 'so-called' religious and community leaders must admit their culpability, and correct their own divisive ways. Until they do so, a coming generation of boys will continue biting the bullet for a fight they did not start.
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Stepping up the ranks
CRIME I Indo-Canadian gangs gain in strength and organization even as the community unites against them
Vancouver, October 1, 2005
Kim Bolan
Vancouver Sun
Young Indo-Canadian gangsters are becoming increasingly sophisticated, and adopting names and logos like the infamous outlaw motorcycle clubs, police say.
A year ago police felt that Indo-Canadian gangs, despite dozens of murders, were less organized than traditional crime groups. But today there is a level of sophistication exhibited by these rival groups as they tussle over turf in B.C.'s lucrative drug trade.
The RCMP's annual report on organized crime this year ranks the Indo-Canadian groups third after outlaw bikers and Asians in terms of their strength and organization in B.C.'s hierarchy of criminal organizations.
And the killing of gang members has continued, with 10 murders since last fall of Indo-Canadians or their associates linked to gangs.
The latest victim, Hardev Singh Sidhu, 27, was found slumped in his car at 136th Street and Grosvenor Road in Surrey early Friday morning.
Dozens of other drive-by shootings have been investigated by police in Abbotsford, Surrey, Vancouver and elsewhere, including a second Surrey shooting early Friday outside a pub.
The most disturbing trend, say police, is the increased organization of some Indo-Canadian gangsters, such as a Vancouver-based group calling itself the Independent Soldiers, and battling rival groups involved in drug trafficking.
On Sept. 10, Vancouver police were called to the downtown nightclub Tonic where members of the Independent Soldiers and the Abbotsford-based UN gang attacked each other with bar stools and broken bottles.
Two men were taken to hospital with injuries, but did not cooperate with police. No charges were laid.
Independent Soldiers' kingpin Sukhvinder Singh (Bicky) Dosanjh was killed in a car accident at Marine and Main Street two weeks ago, leaving a void in the evolving organization with links going back to notorious cocaine dealer Bindy Johal.
Dosanjh, a graduate of John Oliver secondary, is the brother of Gerpal Singh (Paul) Dosanjh, who was gunned down in March 2004 at the Gourmet Castle Restaurant in the 2800-block of East Hastings and who was also involved in the drug trade.
Paul Dosanjh had survived being shot in the head in August 2003.
The Dosanjh brothers are first cousins of Ron and Jimmy Dosanjh, among the original group of Indo-Canadian gangsters who were taken out in separate hits in 1994 and 1995. The high-profile murders were believed to have been arranged by Bindy Johal, their former associate-turned-rival in the cocaine trafficking world.
Johal was then murdered on the dance floor of a Vancouver nightclub in December 1998 in a targeted hit arranged by his former associate Bal Buttar. Buttar remains a blind quadriplegic after an attempt on his life in August 2001 by members of his own crew.
Vancouver police staked out Bicky Dosanjh's funeral last Saturday at Hamilton Harron Mortuary on Fraser Street where dozens of young men with gang links came to pay their respects to the dead gangster and former high school basketball star.
Vancouver police Insp. Kash Heed said the trend to more organized Indo-Canadian crime groups is disturbing.
"You are starting to see them identifying themselves in a similar way to gangs in the United States," Heed said. "Now you have Indo-Canadian gang clothing with identifiable logos."
But police and Indo-Canadian community groups are also evolving in their response to the Indo-Canadian violence. Ten months ago, the B.C. government committed tens of millions of dollars to the new B.C. Integrated Gang Task Force, which is targeting the violence among young Indo-Canadian gangsters that has led to dozens of murders in the last decade.
Delta Supt. John Robin is the officer in charge of the task force, which has just reached its full staffing complement of 60.
"We've had unbelievable cooperation from all the departments and agencies to put this together," Robin said in an interview. "Everyone's aware that this is a long-term commitment."
Robin said the task force is putting its effort into targeting violent individuals in groups who are currently active.
"What our purpose is is to target those individuals who are extremely violent," he said, adding that some on the list may be suspects in unsolved murders. "It takes probably more resources than one single department or detachment could put together."
Robin said the Indo-Canadian gangsters do not follow the model of true organized criminals "and in some ways that makes them more dangerous."
The new task force is gathering and coordinating intelligence on the Indo-Canadian gangs better than before, Robin said.
"That is one of the things we are really working hard on," he said.
But they are also involved in major criminal investigations.
"We are just scratching the surface. We are in here for the long term and none of us expect to turn this around overnight."
There have been several key arrests both in B.C. and Washington state related to Indo-Canadian organized crime.
Last April and May, several alleged Indo-Canadian gangsters were arrested in two separate kidnapping and unlawful confinement cases and are now facing a series of charges.
And in the U.S., an alleged ecstasy dealer and would-be politician named Ravinder Kaur Shergill was arrested after the Drug Enforcement Agency taped her in an undercover sting operation.
One of the most high-profile arrests was of Vancouver lawyer Kuldip Singh Chaggar, who was convicted in Seattle last April of tampering with a witness in a drug case involving alleged Indo-Canadian crime figures who were caught in a cross-border trafficking case.
Chaggar is now serving a year in jail, although he is appealing his conviction.
RCMP Insp. Paul Nadeau, head of the regional drug section, said the Indo-Canadians are primarily specializing in the transport of marijuana, with so many in the community involved in the commercial trucking industry. He said the Indo-Canadians are contracting to other crime groups to deliver their product.
Nadeau said that the use of commercial trucks to transport pot to the U.S. is up about 400 per cent over the last three years |
