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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (204802)	9/30/2006 6:01:20 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

You forgot the double standard. Donations to Democrats are gooooooood, donations to Republicans are baaaaaaaad.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (204802)	9/30/2006 6:04:03 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

>>ANTI-W. $OROS: I QUIT POLITICS September 29, 2006 -- Billionaire liberal financier George Soros, who spent millions of his fortune trying to oust President Bush in 2004, yesterday said he hopes to stay out of politics from now on. "In the future, I'd very much like to get disengaged from politics," Soros said at a Council on Foreign Relations meeting on the Upper East Side. "I'm interested in policy and not in politics." nypost.com

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (204802)	9/30/2006 2:49:36 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

CENTER FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS CONDEMNS DEFEAT OF SPECTER AMENDMENT TO PRESERVE HABEAS Synopsis On September 28, the Senate voted 51-48 against an amendment proposed by Senator Arlen Specter to the Military Commissions Act which would have preserved the right of habeas corpus. Center for Constitutional Rights Executive Director Vincent Warren issued the following statement in response: "With the defeat of the Specter Amendment to the Military Commissions Act, Congress has sacrificed any semblance of a meaningful balance of power. Congress is now rubber-stamping a bill that was written by the President which gives the President expansive power to detain without judicial oversight. If the Military Commissions Act is passed, it will grant the President the privilege of kings, allowing him to imprison any critics as alleged 'enemy combatants,' never to see the inside of a court room or to have the chance to challenge their detention or their treatment. What would we say if another country passed a law making it legal to snatch U.S. citizens and detain them indefinitely? "Under this legislation, our clients at Guantánamo and hundreds of others detained by the U.S. around the world may remain locked up for the rest of their lives without ever having a chance to prove their innocence. Congress will be forfeiting one of the founding principles of the democratic tradition, and one of the most basic checks on executive power. Since the nation's founding, the writ has been suspended only four times-each only briefly and in a territory that was an active combat zone. This bill would suspend it for all non-citizens inside or outside of the U.S. - even if they have not been charged with any crime. This unprecedented and expansive suspension of habeas corpus is utterly unconstitutional, and we will challenge it." ccr-ny.org I'll bet that it's coming back in spades. Other countries WILL begin to detain Americans for no reason and indefinitely. That's a pretty reasonable prediction of what Republicans have unleashed on those who they are supposed to be PROTECTING.....US Instead of protecting Americans, Republicans have made the world so much more dangerous both here and abroad. God help the unlucky tourist in a foreign country. God help someone trying to give money to orphans in Afghanistan. We'd better all stop giving to all charities and buying all products just in case money might possibly be diverted to some nefarious cause (or it just looks that way). Ditto foreign travel. We should all just stay home and stop shopping or contributing. That's now the only safe way to live.