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Politics : Right Wing Extremist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: longnshort who wrote (54686)	9/30/2006 12:22:15 PM
From: Mr. Palau	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 59480

i think it was six years later, and had already been vice president still, your comparison of nixon and allen is a good one both share the same moral values

To: longnshort who wrote (54686)	9/30/2006 12:43:09 PM
From: Mr. Palau	Respond to of 59480

"Abizaid held to the position that the war was now about the Iraqis. They had to win it now. The U.S. military had done all it could. It was critical, he argued, that they lower the American troop presence. It was still the face of an occupation, with American forces patrolling, kicking down doors and looking at the Iraqi women, which infuriated the Iraqi men. "We've got to get the [expletive] out," he said. Abizaid's old friends were worried sick that another Vietnam or anything that looked like Vietnam would be the end of the volunteer army. What's the strategy for winning? they pressed him. "That's not my job," Abizaid said. No, it is part of your job, they insisted. No, Abizaid said. Articulating strategy belonged to others. Who? "The president and Condi Rice, because Rumsfeld doesn't have any credibility anymore," he said. This March, Abizaid was in Washington to testify before the Senate Armed Services Committee. He painted a careful but upbeat picture of the situation in Iraq. Afterward, he went over to see Rep. John P. Murtha in the Rayburn House Office Building. Murtha, a Pennsylvania Democrat, had introduced a resolution in Congress calling for American troops in Iraq to be "redeployed" -- the military term for returning troops overseas to their home bases -- "at the earliest practicable date." "The war in Iraq is not going as advertised," Murtha had said. "It is a flawed policy wrapped in illusion." Now, sitting at the round dark-wood table in the congressman's office, Abizaid, the one uniformed military commander who had been intimately involved in Iraq from the beginning and who was still at it, indicated he wanted to speak frankly. According to Murtha, Abizaid raised his hand for emphasis, held his thumb and forefinger a quarter of an inch from each other and said, "We're that far apart."