To: plantlife who wrote (212042 ) 9/30/2006 3:54:23 PM From: eracer Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 275872 Re: That's not a conclusion, it's a wish. K8L is rev. H not rev. F. There were no wishes, just facts. Yes, K8L is rev. H and as I said earlier it is due to launch about a year after Core 2 Duo. Rev. F and Rev. G are not expected to retake the performance lead in desktops or notebooks within the next year. Re: They have 2 dual core chips on a single package, and it is incorrect to call it a "QUAD CORE Chip." One chip is still one chip, and (1+1=2), no matter how they are packaged. Sure... AMD doesn't have a dual-core chip either because there is only one memory controller instead of two. Until AMD has quad-channel DDR they don't have a "true" dual-core either. AMD's cores don't share L2 cache, another strike against being a "real" dual-core CPU.As for the ATI Co-processor, I stated that they were expected to release a physics chip, and I thought AMD was interested in them for that reason. The information that ATI was expected to release a Physics Chip was on the Inquirer, and there are links that talk about ATI doing just that. It was an item which we disagreed about. I saw the links, and you did also, but you stated they did not meet your standards for what a physics chip should be. It doesn't really matter to me what they use, or what they call it, just as long as it works to improve performance. I was talking in generalities, and you were nitpicking, IMO. Not the way I remember it. You kept claiming it was a unique processor. I kept telling you it was a GPU. You told me to Google "ati physics processor" as proof. All Google searching proved was that the "physics processor" was a X1900 GPU. Here is my opinion on why you were rather subborn on this point: If ATI created a unique physics chip rather than renamed a video card GPU it would made ATI's engineering accomplishments appear much more significant. That type of creativity and engineering prowess would certainly make ATI look like a much better buy at ~$5.5 billion, and therefore make AMD's decision to pay such a high price for ATI seem more reasonable.