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To: alan w who wrote (3699)	10/1/2006 7:06:17 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 5569

So you believe in the end Jesus created this world, free will, etc. just a s a ludicrous game...it matters not how we treat each other because in the end Jesus will reign in heaven with all reconciled to him? That kind of doctrine will certainly guarantee a prime seat in hell. That nullifies the entire birth, death, resurrection of Jesus and makes him out to be a liar and masochist. To even imply that serial murders, pedophiles and other sickos are welcomed as equals with faithful martyrs of history in heaven is so ludicrous I am stunned you could entertain such thoughts.

To: alan w who wrote (3699)	10/2/2006 9:16:33 AM
From: JeffA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

I listened to a sermon this morning from Dr John MacArthur. He was discussing about "fairness." We want to apply our standards to what is fair and, as Christians, we often err in our thinking about what is fair in relation to getting into heaven. We simply cannot know God's mind and what his plans are for us. MacArthur went so far as to state that when we make a judgement about what is fair in reference to who should or will get into heaven, he said we are guilty of Pride, because we are applying man's measure of fairness to a standard set by and only understood by God. Go to gty.org and listen to today's program. It's applicable to today's discussion here. Don't be put off by the intro, the sermon is actually about election and predestination, but the discussion on fairness is very applicable to this discussion.