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To: neolib who wrote (204904)10/1/2006 5:41:16 PM
From: Lazarus_Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
You like 3rd world medicine? You're welcome to it. I personally know of 2 instances where their docs would have killed me had I not had a high enough index of suspicion to have their recommendations checked. They were wrong- -my dead wrong had I followed their advice.

In one instance, they gave my wife twice the recommended dose of cortisone for her size and weight. Apparently they have a problem converting between pounds and kilograms. Or rather, don't bother to. In another, a doc injected intramuscularly a drug that the manufacturer very specifically says should not be given that way- -it destroys muscle tissue if so administered. It should be injected intravenously.

Like it? Go to it!

Where were the first heart transplants done?
S. Africa. By Barnard. And the recipient was dead 18 days later, wasn't he?
And there was a race on to see who would be first, wasn't there? And the US was in the running.

Oh.
Even Christiaan Barnard went to the United States to develop his surgical skills before returning to South Africa.
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than my local hospital is.
Undoubtedly. Ever hear of Stanford? Texas Heart Institute?

than my local hospital is.
Sometimes you het what you pay for too.

That is the point at which medical care is offshored, and also the point at which cost containment will start seriously working in the USA.
I see. After screaming, yelling , and throwing a fir about offshoring on the US, now you want to promote it?
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Or are you Indian or South African?

The results very clearly showed that centers of excellence often had 2:1 survival rates over hospitals where the procedure was performed rarely.
DUH! Everyone is aware that the more often a surgeon or hospital performs a procedure, the better they are at it. It's not true just of medicine. Read up on "specialization".



To: neolib who wrote (204904)10/1/2006 6:03:29 PM
From: geode00  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Frontline: Remaking American Medicine

"As many as 98,000 Americans die in hospitals each year of preventable medical errors. One million more are injured. In fact, medical errors kill as many people per year as breast cancer, HIV-AIDS and car accidents.

These and other equally startling statistics underscore the chaotic conditions within the American health care system.


REMAKING AMERICAN MEDICINE explores the quality crisis and the innovative solutions being undertaken by providers, patients and their families to transform the care provided by the institutions on which we all depend.

The four programs air on PBS Thursdays, October 5-26, 2006, 10:00-11:00 p.m. ET (check local listings). Peabody Award and Emmy Award-winner John Hockenberry, formerly of NBC and NPR, hosts....

The first program, "Silent Killer" (10/5) sets the stage for the issues that are explored throughout the series. The program highlights the efforts of Sorrel King, whose 18-month-old daughter died at one of the most respected hospitals in the world, Johns Hopkins.King has gone from grieving victim to engaged activist, partnering with Johns Hopkins to make safety a top priority at the institution...."

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I don't know about anyone else but I don't trust ANY doctor, nurse or hospital more than, say, 60%. Insurance companies I trust 0%.

It's all about money, denying care, CYA and doing as little work as possible for as much money as possible.

I'm fairly certain that there are good, caring medical practitioners who do it out of concern for people but I haven't bumped into any lately. Unfortunately, this is also creeping into the veterinary field where incredibly expensive procedures are being foisted onto guilt-ridden owners.



To: neolib who wrote (204904)10/2/2006 1:12:46 AM
From: bentway  Respond to of 281500
 
"Said insurance company than tells the patient, go to S. Africa, or cough up the differential. That is the point at which medical care is offshored, and also the point at which cost containment will start seriously working in the USA."

Please put a rush on this - it needs to happen yesterday! Some "self insuring" corporations are ALREADY "offshoring" some treatments.