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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (3746)10/2/2006 10:49:39 PM
From: alan w  Respond to of 5569
 
alan, not everyone wants to be saved and stuck in heaven for eternity. It's each person's choice. God gives everyone that choice and many will not find it or want it.

That has to be the most ridiculous statement ever. I guess you believe they'd rather writhe in burning torment forever instead. Could it be that God hasn't yet revealed Himself to them? Could it be that some never heard the gospel during life? Could it be that some died before reaching an age of understanding?

Salvation is a gift but the person has to accept the gift.

Wrong. Salvation is for believers. The faith we have to believe is not of ourselves. It is a gift of God lest any man should boast. We can't just wake up one day and decide to believe. God has to place the faith in us.

God does not force anyone to be saved.

So where will the ones who don't want to go to heaven or hell go? If God won't force anyone to do anything they don't want, will they be able to just say hang out around the milky way galaxy and take in the sights?

alan w



To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (3746)10/2/2006 10:54:41 PM
From: alan w  Respond to of 5569
 
Jesus said wide is the path to destruction and many will go that way and that he was the narrow gate and few would find it.

I know this will fall on deaf ears but:

The Cramped Gate and Narrow Way

HOW earnestly did we once exhort sinners to leave the broad way which leads to destruction, for the narrow path that leads to life! (Matt.7:13,14). But, thank God, we learned the great truth that we are in Christ and share His life. How then could we be on a road that leads to life? I learned, moreover, that the entrance into life was wide, not cramped. It was entered by grace, not by striving (Luke 13:24). The narrow way was not the evangel but the law. That leads to life, for those who keep it, but, alas, of the few who find it, none observe it. The precept given for life is for death (Rom.7:10).

The word "strait" is no longer understood, hence it is translated cramped in the CONCORDANT VERSION. In its other forms it means groan, distress. We westerners do not know what a narrow road is. I lived on a narrow street. It was just wide enough so three automobiles could drive abreast. In the East a street is not narrow if a single automobile can squeeze through. It is wide, extra wide. It is narrow if pedestrians must go in single file. The word cramped means still more. It is so narrow that it makes one groan to squeeze through. That is the normal experience of one under the law of Moses. But the freedom we have in Christ is like the flight of a bird in the air. Not cramped, but spacious. Full of life, not leading to life. Not groaning, but singing!

The figure of the two ways was used by our Lord in proclaiming the evangel of the kingdom, before His rejection by Israel, with the cross out of sight, long before Paul was given his evangel for the nations, which is in force today. Yet even in that economy the gospel was not cramped. In the tabernacle the entrance was very wide indeed. Our Lord's words were immediately preceded by the basic law of the kingdom. "All, then, whatever you may be wanting that men should be doing to you, thus you, also, be doing to them, for this is the law and the prophets." This law is the cramped gate and narrow way. Who can fulfill it?