To: Hawkmoon who wrote (49965 ) 10/3/2006 6:38:02 PM From: IQBAL LATIF Respond to of 50167 <<If true, then where were this officers transferred to?? Were they put out of uniform, or transferred to a non-intelligence military unit? >> Most of them get retired and oppose the government to the hilt and especially Mush..Please check out the following news in todays newspaper..Gul is one of the crazy ones.. Two ex-ISI chiefs refute president's statement..http://www.dawn.com/2006/10/03/top3.htm More retired Generals keep talking against him every day..thepeninsulaqatar.com Going through hte reserves this where they end up in hte reserves and reitred, only if war ensues they are ask to come to work.. fwiw.. Personnel in each service Service Total Active Duty Personnel TotalReserve Personnel Army 550,000 513,000 Navy 24,000 5,000 Air Force 45,000 10,000 Paramilitary Forces 302,000 Total 921,000 528,000 On Deobandi(Hanbali).. please kindly note Pakistan is predominantly Barelvi(Hanafi) and not Deobandi..Pakhtoons practice Hambali Islam or the wahabism whereas predominant populace i.e. Punjabis, Sindhis, Balouchis they are followers of sufi Saints, the population is benign, Zia was the only Deobandi Chief, Musharraf is a Barelvi and so is 85% of the Army, that is how things have remained so far.. <<The Hanbali school, admittedly the most retrogade school of thought and considered to be a macroosm of radical & austere schools of thought, lingers on in Saudi Arabia & Qatar. Thankfully it is the Hanafi school predominates across a wide swathe of the Muslim world and commands the most adherents since it is dispersed throughout Anatolia, the Balkans, the Caucasus range, Central Asia and the Sub-continent otherwise one can one shudder at the thought at the Hanbali advancing and converting masses of people to their dogma. The most fundamental faultline within Sunni Islam is the distinction between "desert Islam" and "monsoon Islam". The former represents the variant that was nutured by Arab mores and is of a more austere puritanical order (thus more prone to fanaticism) whereas Monsoon Islam denotes the cultures influenced by the Indian cultures. The name is taken for the monsoon regions of India, Bangladesh and South East Asia where Islam is of a more esoteric mix and at times reached a syncretism with the host culture so as to be indistinguishable from Hinduism. No wonder in the 8th century when on returning home to Damascus Arab settlers in Sindh (Pakistan) were admonished ``O returner from Hind, renew thy faith.''. ........... Pakistan's history of being prone to invasions from the Afghan highlands and the Indus Valley a transitional medium between the Sub-continent and the Islamic world has led to be a boundary between the practises of desert and monsoon Islam. The population is roughly divided as typified by the Punjabi trait of venerating Sufi saints, who are no more than Islamicised versions of Hindu yogis, whilst the Pathans practise of a form of Islam that finds close kin in the Bedouin practises in the hinterlands of Saudi Arabia. posted by Zachary at 12:13 >>64.233.161.104