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To: JD who wrote (49968)10/4/2006 3:20:49 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Respond to of 50167
 
<<Brig. Butler said tribal elders got the Afghan Government to negotiate a ceasefire between British forces and the Taliban. “I told them, ‘You tell the Taliban to stop firing at us and my soldiers will stop firing back at you’,” he said. The 16-day old ceasefire was an “Afghan solution”.

“We are bidding for people’s minds,” he said. “The people here are sick of war and they are turning to the Afghan Government to end it.

“We won’t turn Afghanistan around overnight as some people believe. Moral, legal and ethical compasses of some people may be tested by this process but the repercussions of failure are too great to contemplate.”

Brig. Butler said that there had been a drop in violence. Tribal elders from other districts were negotiating with the provincial government for similar deals.

But there might be other factors, he said. The opium poppy planting season began two weeks ago and needed a lot of labour. The opium industry and Taliban vied for hired labourers from a mass of unemployed men.

Fighting also dropped in winter, when the Taliban retreated to regroup and rearm.

“I fully acknowledge that we could be being duped; that the Taliban may be buying time to reconstitute and regenerate,” Brig. Butler said. “But every day that there is no fighting, the power moves to the hands of the tribal elders who are turning to the Government for security and development. That is the glimmer of an opportunity which could be deliverable if we seize it. It is about people power and it could gain momentum.”

He said troops now would go ahead with redevelopment work.>>

thewest.com.au

On that The News reported..<<Meanwhile, it is indeed an irony that after the US and British media, as well as the US government, subjected Pakistan to scathing criticism for its "deal" with its own tribal citizens, the British military has struck a deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan, in the face of their military failures. Let us wait and see if the US media and politicians will be equally abusive of the British government and its military for making a deal with the Taliban. More rationally of course, this is a beginning which Pakistan has been suggesting for a while -- that is, there is a real need to distinguish between the Taliban and Al Qaeda. Should we now tell the British, "told you so?">>
thenews.com.pk

And today..

<<US senator says bring Taliban leadership into government

By Khalid Hasan

WASHINGTON: US Senate majority leader Bill Frist has called for the Taliban and their allies to be brought into the mainstream and made part of the government as not only are they too numerous in number but also enjoy a popular base.

Frist, now in Afghanistan on a visit, is quoted by the Associated Press correspondent, Jim Krane, in a dispatch filed from Afghanistan as saying, “You need to bring them into a more transparent type of government. And if that’s accomplished, we’ll be successful.”

The death toll in Afghanistan is mounting and so far this year, 2,800 people have been killed, 1,300 more than were killed in the same period last year.

Frist, on his first visit to the country, said that asking the Taliban to join the government was a decision to be made by President Hamid Karzai. Another senator on the trip with Frist, Mel Martinez, a Florida Republican, said negotiating with the Taliban was not “out of the question” but that fighters who refused to join the political process would have to be defeated. “A political solution is how it’s all going to be solved,” he added.

Frist expressed the hope that the US would be able pull out its forces from Afghanistan soon, but added that 20,000 American troops were still needed to support NATO, which will soon assume direct control over most military operations, the news agency reported. “We’re going to stay here a long time,” he said. He suggested that the only way to win in areas such as southern Afghanistan was to “assimilate people who call themselves Taliban into a larger, more representative government. Approaching counterinsurgency by winning hearts and minds will ultimately be the answer. Military vs insurgency one-to-one does not sound like it can be won. It sounds to me that the Taliban is everywhere.”

Frist and Martinez are also going to visit Pakistan and Iraq.

Meanwhile, NATO in Afghanistan appears to have followed the example set by Pakistan, which signed a peace deal with tribal elders in North Waziristan. British NATO troops have reached a similar type of agreement with Afghan tribal elders to end Taliban attacks in a southern district of the country.

Under the deal signed in Musa Qila in Helmand province, British troops will not launch offensives and in return the tribal leaders will press the Taliban to stop their attacks, reports Reuters from Kabul. “If we are not attacked, we have no reason to initiate offensive operations. The tribal leaders are using their influence on the Taliban,” according to NATO spokesman Mark Laity.

Laity clarified – in the same way that Pakistan has done more than once – that the understanding had been reached with tribal elders, not with the Taliban. Another similarity with the North Waziristan agreement signed by Pakistan is that like the Pakistan army, the British troops deployed in the area will stay. According to the report, “Efforts are underway elsewhere to end the violence by involving chiefs of the fiercely independent and conservative Pashtun tribes. Pakistan and Afghanistan, at odds over Afghan complaints that the Taliban receive help in Pakistan, have agreed to hold tribal councils on both sides of the border to discuss security.”>>



To: JD who wrote (49968)10/4/2006 3:30:06 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
Some very interesting questions, will definitely try to answer the issues you have highlighted, but I am on my way to ME will definitely try to put my two cents worth soon,, Ike..



To: JD who wrote (49968)10/4/2006 3:33:48 AM
From: IQBAL LATIF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50167
 
Nice to see Mush getting a flak..this openess and critcism helps to vent out popular anger, it is a very good vent, we miss it in most of the ME..

Naheed terms Musharraf book ‘a bundle of lies’
By our correspondent

ISLAMABAD: Naheed Khan, Member National Assembly and political secretary to the PPP Chairperson Benazir Bhutto, has said the book "In the Line of Fire" by General Musharraf is nothing but personal aggrandise and a source of embarrassment for the nation. She said the issue would be brought in the next session of the National Assembly for discussion.

In a statement Naheed said General Musharraf’s memoir was a "bundle of lies" and from the CIA to senior military generals have refuted his claims in the book. "General Musharraf has spent hard earned money of the people of Pakistan for launching his book in the United States," she added.

Naheed said Zulifiqar Ali Bhutto did not need an unpopular general who grabbed power illegally and unconstitutionally. "Zulifiqar Ali Bhutto fought against dictators like General Ayub, General Yahya and General Zia and he remains in the hearts and minds of the people of Pakistan," she added.

She said General Musharraf is a dictator and that is why he has badmouthed against democratic leadership of Pakistan. General Musharraf should be held accountable for revealing state secrets and embarrassing the nation worldwide, she said.