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To: pyslent who wrote (57674)	10/6/2006 3:45:26 PM
From: inaflash	Respond to of 213177

Notwithstanding the obvious benefits of having a music player play music out-of-the-box...The player comes with 400 songs preloaded... Since they've got the licenses (for music rental), there's no reason not to preload it with 4000 songs, and if in your favorite genre, the box will likely already have some or much of your favorite music. The service to find music similar to what you like is very good, and here is the strength of the subscription model versus purchase. Sampling in the purchase model gets tricky (how much of the song, how long, how many plays, etc.) which Zen is trying to define. With the rental model, it's all spelled out beforehand. It's easier to understand video rental/purchase than these sampling music choices. A really cool site that does this is pandora.com in case anyone hasn't seen this yet.

To: pyslent who wrote (57674)	10/6/2006 8:09:10 PM
From: Doren	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 213177

learns your tastes and refreshes the player on every connection with music that it thinks you'll like. It might take a couple of iterations to get the recommendations right, but with patience, this could be a very compelling feature in terms of music discovery. This is ABSOLUTELY the death of music. This narrows and narrows and narrows your focus so that you never go out of your musical comfort zone. That's ABSOLUTELY the last thing I want to do. Music should challenge. But I'm weird. Most of my friends still listen to the same crap they listened to in high school. Actually they've stopped listening to music because it now bores them. This is why record companies market 90% to adolescents. My tastes are and have constantly changed. I NEVER go by genre. In fact if I can ID the genre it usually means that it's imitative IMHO. I'm ALWAYS looking for stuff that I don't understand or has a different point of view from what I know.