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To: wsw1 who wrote (2643)	10/8/2006 5:24:46 PM
From: SliderOnTheBlack	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50270

billy re: Quoting Frank Barbera? Whoa... hold on a minute 'bugs. Now you're quoting Frank Barbera charts and running his bullish call up the flag pole -- after bashing him -- when he issued a not so bullish call earlier? Now c'mon people... is Frankie B. an ax, or a clown; a bull, or a bear; good, or evil? You can't have it both ways...re: ********************************************************************************************************* To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (2238) 8/20/2006 10:33:25 PM From: maxncompany Respond to of 2643 Equating 1980 to 2006 is one heck of a reach. Frank Barbera? The genius who told people to sell gold in the $500's only to watch it shoot above $700. ******************************************************************************************************** And billy, I guess the "Free Put" and "Hold Tight" wasn't enough pain for you...now you're quoting Paul Van Eeden to me? Simply amazing... Oh, I almost forgot this gem from our beloved Elmer Fudd: [My comments in bold] **************************************************************************************************************** Posted On: Tuesday, October 03, 2006, 5:32:00 PM EST Black Boxes and Dead Hedge Funds Author: JIM SINCLAIR The action in the marketplace speaks to bankruptcies among hedge funds that are not evident to the general public or to even those professional traders that I know. [No $h!^t sherlock... and most of them were long commodities; especially gold & energy stocks. This revelation would have ONLY been valuable if you told your readers that Gold & Energy were artificially boosted because of excess speculation in the first place... but, you didn't.] Sure those in gold and energy on margin beyond their capacity are being liquidated into the marketplace. But it is the hedge fund managers with their damn algorithms that have hit the fan hard - and you can guess what is flying all over the place. [THEIR damned algorithms as opposed to YOUR "French Curves" and "Magic Magnets"? -- ROTFLMAO!?!] This may well be the watershed for black boxes, along with the 32 year old wunderkinds who really believe that computer systems can trade markets. Their convictions have convinced billions of dollars to invest in them. When you read a year ago that state retirement funds were investing massive amounts into hot hedge fund operator’s hands, you had to know the game was all but over. These hotshots - lacking any personal risk - entered all derivative markets to get the largest bang for their bucks - and bang is what they got. ["32 year old wunderkids"... or, half-senile 82 year old ego-maniac CEO's who spend more time posting in chat rooms & drawing cartoons of Ben Bernanke than they do looking for gold?] There is a contradiction staring you right in the face in the marketplace and that is the six month sideways chop of the US dollar which is happening with bankruptcy signs flashing all over the place. [Sinclair called for derivatives to implode at $350 gold... didn't happen. He's also called for the collapse of the USD to .60 or less for over two years...and the USD just hit 2 months highs...whodathunkit?] I firmly believe that the “forces that be” who have conspired to keep the financial landscape pleasant - primarily in the equities sector - until the mid-term elections are over, never expected to bust wide open the hedge funds whose black boxes were screaming “opportunity” in the commodities markets. [Jim, put on your reading glasses... they weren't screaming "opportunity"...they were screaming -- "excess speculation" and obviously so.] Could crude oil have been leased from strategic stockpiles to trading houses? Might the house of Saud provided some help to a few very close friends? Could that combination set off a series of events that have now created more financial trouble in the form of overkill to bring fuel prices down into early November? I think so. [Talk about being intellectually dishonest...how about Council on Foreign Relations front man lackey Matt Simmons promise of a supply:demand shock going up in smoke...as inventories for Natural Gas, Gasoline AND Crude Oil soar to 5 year highs!] Reading energy price levels without looking behind the reasons for them dropping precipitously has resulted in the media conclusion that inflation is behind us. But they forget that inflation is by definition monetary ease and prices are the result of that easing. [Simply incredulous. The man is incapable of intellectual honesty.... How about 17 straight Fed Hikes and Japan sucking hundreds of billions of liquidity out of the system -- you moron.] The financial crisis today that’s being kept quite secret is the explosion pending for more than one hedge fund. Such a condition calls for liquefying the monetary system. Monetary ease is the inflation that precedes price inflation. [Well we just had one that was 50% larger than LTCM go up in smoke for being LONG commodities...and no one blinked...] If you emotionally wish to discount me, then simply refer back to the stated concerns of no less than former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker who is generally in direct opposition to all the nitwits commentating on financial media today. Since 2005 to even last week, Volcker has been warning the market with the following comments: "There are disturbing trends: huge imbalances, disequilibria, risks -- call them what you will. Altogether the circumstances seem to me as dangerous and intractable as any I can remember, and I can remember quite a lot." "I don't know whether change will come with a bang or a whimper, whether sooner or later. But as things stand, it is more likely than not that it will be financial crises rather than policy foresight that will force the change." "We are skating on increasingly thin ice". Volker predicts the that if the U.S continues on its present course, the deficits and imbalances will increase and that at some time the confidence in the U.S that supports the flow of foreign investment in the U.S. could fade. The former Fed chairman has labeled these economic circumstances as the "hour glass" economy, one where the middle class was getting pinched tighter and tighter and where those at the lowest end of the wage spectrum were earning less and less in real dollar terms. [Then I guess we should also have listened to Warren Buffet when he said that commodities were in a speculative bubble too?] It is my suspicion that exactly what has impacted gold on the downside, which is the bankruptcy of more than one commodities hedge fund, comprises the circumstances that would push this politically expedient manipulative market action into a crisis situation. In an attempt to paint a picture of calm by stressing strong economic growth, lack of inflation and peace in the world for early November, they have broken the bank. The broader ramification is for much higher gold prices as the phoenix gets launched out of the ashcan. The common stock of those that tried to paint this rosy November picture will drop precipitously. It is called the US dollar. The evidence for this once again is the fact that the US dollar has moved sideways even though markets have reached all-time highs. Something is rotten my friends and it is not in the state of Denmark. If you are on margin unfortunately you are cooked. There is no one so bearish on gold than liquidated bulls who bought on margin. But I have warned you about margin relentlessly in the past. [I would add one caveat... "if you are in POS penny stocks that have yet to produce their first ounce of gold and have insiders dumping ALL of their shares...and you take a 45% hit in less than 60 days (like TRE)... then you may be as bearish as those on margin."] For those who have no debt attached to their equity position(s), please know that $1,650 is the price objective which just these kind of circumstance can create. For those who are informed regarding their share investments and are comfortable with management, the company’s prospects and finances, and have no debt associated with their positions - have no fear. [Wrong Jim... they have a helluva lot of fear... just look at the spots on their pants.] There is much more to what has occurred here in the past few weeks than what is commonly understood. You are seeing bankruptcy markets being shielded from our view while they are being liquidated. It is much more than simply one hedge fund. That you can take to the bank (ruptcy). Have faith through understanding and do not allow yourself to be emotionally run out of fully paid, well understood gold positions. The seeds of $1,650 are evident in today’s market action if properly understood. [Well understood gold positions -- don't crater the equivalent of 3,559 DOW points!...and I think Ron Merks had the right idea about the "seeds" and how they might relate to your "visions" of $1650 gold...I don't know what you've been smokin' in Tanzania...but, it must be some really good $h!^.] *************************************************************************************************************** SOTB`