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To: lorne who wrote (2184)	10/9/2006 9:23:15 AM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 20106

Hooray for Michigan State University (The Spartans) and Professor Wichman!!! Well, what do we have here. Looks like a small case of some people being able to dish it out, but not take it. Let's start at the top. The story begins at Michigan State University with a mechanical engineering professor named Indrek Wichman. Wichman sent an e-mail to the Muslim Student's Association. The e-mail was in response to the students' protest of the Danish cartoons that portrayed the Prophet Muhammad as a terrorist. The group had complained the cartoons were "hate speech." Enter Professor Wichman. In his e-mail, he said the following: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Moslem Association: As a professor of Mechanical Engineering here at MSU I intend to protest your protest. I am offended not by cartoons, but by more mundane things like beheadings of civilians, cowardly attacks on public buildings, suicide murders, murders of Catholic priests (the latest in Turkey!), burnings of Christian churches, the continued persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt, the imposition of Sharia law on non-Muslims, the rapes of Scandinavian girls and women (called "whores" in your culture), the murder of film directors in Holland, and the rioting and looting in Paris France. This is what offends me, a soft-spoken person and academic, and many, many, many of my colleagues. I counsel you dissatisfied, aggressive, brutal, and uncivilized slave-trading Moslems to be very aware of this as you proceeded with your infantile "protests." If you do not like the values of the West — see the 1st Amendment — you are free to leave. I hope for God's sake that most of you choose that option. Please return to your ancestral homelands and build them up yourselves instead of troubling Americans. Cordially, I. S. Wichman, Professor of Mechanical Engineering -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well! As you can imagine, the Muslim group at the university didn't like this too well. They're demanding Wichman be reprimanded and mandatory diversity training for faculty and a seminar on hate and discrimination for freshman. How nice. But now the Michigan chapter of CAIR has jumped into the fray. CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, apparently doesn't believe that the good professor had the right to express his opinion. For its part, the university is standing its ground. They say the e-mail was private, and they don't intend to publicly condemn his remarks. That will probably change. Wichman says he never intended the e-mail to be made public, and wouldn't have used the same strong language if he'd known it was going to get out. How's the left going to handle this one? If you're in favor of the freedom of speech, as in the case of Ward Churchill, will the same protections be demanded for Indrek Wichman? I doubt it. Hey folks, send this to everybody and ask them to do the same and tell them to keep passing it around till the whole country gets it. We are in a war. snopes.com

To: lorne who wrote (2184)	10/9/2006 10:56:55 AM
From: BEEF JERKEY	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20106

What Bush should have done is continued the push to find those extremist Muslims behind 9/11 and punished or killed them. That was in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Muslims themselves would have understood that. Starting a distracting war in Iraq for vague reasons hasn't done Western / Muslim relations any good. I'm no big fan of Muslim culture - as a younger man I spent a month in Egypt and frankly thought the place sucked. The food is terrible, its dirty and dirt poor, the women all run around in Burkahs. Still the fact is we don't have a God given right to impose our way of life on others. Like I said there are a billion Muslims in the world - trying to fight each and everyone is a ridiculous notion unless you are considering the notions of ethnic cleansing and genocide via nuclear weapons. It looks like they are fighting us to standstill in Iraq and one could argue they are winning. Like it or not we probably need to find ways to co-exist. So we can cheer every time we hear some Muslim has been blown up in Iraq - but remember our boys are catching it too. I don't find it surprising that an average Muslim resents the Iraqi war however. Remember we invaded them when the real crooks were thousands of miles away in Afghanistan. The thing is I think Muslims are for the most part quite happy to be Muslim. We are not going to change their ways at the point of a gun – thats what you call counter-productive.