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To: Geoff Altman who wrote (205730)	10/13/2006 1:08:00 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

Stories on national news programs often have transcripts. Find it.

To: Geoff Altman who wrote (205730)	10/13/2006 1:46:18 PM
From: Lou Weed	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

<<I have no link......it was on a national news program.>> Here you go....now I'm doing your homework for you. abcnews.go.com "According to the sources, CIA officers who subjected themselves to the water boarding technique lasted an average of 14 seconds before caving in. They said al Qaeda's toughest prisoner, Khalid Sheik Mohammed, won the admiration of interrogators when he was able to last between two and two-and-a-half minutes before begging to confess." What's interesting is to note some other snippets from the piece. "The person believes they are being killed, and as such, it really amounts to a mock execution, which is illegal under international law," said John Sifton of Human Rights Watch. The techniques are controversial among experienced intelligence agency and military interrogators. Many feel that a confession obtained this way is an unreliable tool. Two experienced officers have told ABC that there is little to be gained by these techniques that could not be more effectively gained by a methodical, careful, psychologically based interrogation. According to a classified report prepared by the CIA Inspector General John Helgerwon and issued in 2004, the techniques "appeared to constitute cruel, and degrading treatment under the (Geneva) convention," the New York Times reported on Nov. 9, 2005. It is "bad interrogation. I mean you can get anyone to confess to anything if the torture's bad enough," said former CIA officer Bob Baer." The piece also mentions the following...... "The detainees were also forced to listen to rap artist Eminem's "Slim Shady" album. The music was so foreign to them it made them frantic, sources said." I've experienced this personally and I can vouch for its validity..... Another interesting link to show exactly what waterboarding is.... davidcorn.com Nice to know that our government is now trying to justify the virtues of the Khmer Rouge's favorite water torture. Let me ask you this Geoff.....is this consistent with Christian and American values?!?!? MON.