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To: one_less who wrote (2854)	10/16/2006 12:11:10 PM
From: pompsander	Respond to of 10087

My former boss (now deceased) created a hugely successful business. He almost drank it all away. An intervention saved his life and his business. He went into treatment, never touched alcohol again, rebuilt the business and lived a wonderful, happy, productive life. He admitted that during stressful times he missed his "old comfort" as he called it, but he never wavered.....a great man. I agree that anyone who beats an addiction deserves credit and support.

To: one_less who wrote (2854)	10/16/2006 3:50:57 PM
From: Keith Feral	Respond to of 10087

Recovered alcoholics, hmmm, it's time for AA to come up with a non offensive name for it's members. They need to stop reinforcing everyone else's right to abuse the word. When you quit smoking, people smile and give you a high five. When you quit drinking, people get defensive and tell you they don't have a problem. It's not ironic that all drinkers use their ego (edging god out) to make excuses for their drinking. They immediately start telling you how little they drink every day or every week. I used to do the same. The word alcoholic is the worst phrase in the dictionary for non drinkers. It's the same as calling a black person the n word or a jewish person the k word or a woman the c word. I can tell you the reason that I refuse to recognize AA is because of the negative asociation with this word. It would be like all the women of the world joining a club cXXX's anonomous. In my case, it was a religious dedication to become a better person. I read through the 12 steps and reflected on all the other reasons to stop. I recalled the message of Buddhism which encourages people not to drink. Buddhists are encouraged to be mindful of the problems that it causes in society. Yoga is another form of religious mediation that helped me quit drinking. After practicing yoga for 2 years, I no longer wanted to party. Even the 12 step process is essentially a religious conversion. I guess it was some combination of different religious practices that made it possible for me not to drink again. My wife said that some people thought I was starting a movement after the reunion this weekend. I hardly think that making 1 or 2 positive adjustments in my life constitutes a movement. However, if I am going to dwell about politically issues, there is some room for philisophical, religious, and personal movitivations to be discussed. It provides some faith and hope behind the political framework.