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Pastimes : Prophecy -- HYPE or HOPE? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (3861)	10/16/2006 9:34:06 PM
From: alan w	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5569

Hi Sidney, We all have a real choice Growing up in a place where the gospel is available on every street corner church, most Americans have heard it. But go elsewhere and tell me the same thing. Are you going to say that Eskimos living 1000 years ago heard it? I'm not talking about Paul's comment that anyone can look at nature and know there is a God. I'm talking about the only gospel that saves us, the gospel of the cross of Christ. Did native Americans and everyone ever born in the last 2000 years get a choice to accept Christ as their personal savior? I don't think so. What about those God hid the gospel of Christ from? He hardened the jews hearts against Christ. Their rejection was for salvation of the nations. God's plan included placing a veil over them. Eyes not to be seeing and ears not to be hearing. (Romans 11) Most jews have died without knowing Christ because God won't let them see Him. Did they have "real free will"? Absolutely not. Why? Because God planned it that way. Jesus Himself said He spoke in parables because "to some it is given to know the secrets of the kingdom, yet to others it has not been given"Matt 13:11 God "hath concluded all in unbelief, so that He might have mercy upon all" (Romans 11:32). No one believes UNTIL God removes the veil. No Sidney, we don't "choose" Christ, He chose us from the foundation of the world. Ephesians 1:4 "Believers are born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1:12&13 Of our own selves, we will never choose God. (Romans 3:10&11) "And when the gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord, and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed Acts 13:48 Some are ordained to believe during this life and some are not. Sidney, bottom line, if we are the masters of our destiny, we're dead. If we are in charge, I don't want to see the end. I'm ecstatic that God is in complete control of our destiny. Many will choose to reject God and God will respect their wishes. Not force them into the kingdom of heaven that they didn't want. Or have ever seen or even know anything about? And God has said He has hidden Christ and the kingdom from many. Did these have "real free will"? Untold millions have never heard of any "kingdom". How can they choose what they don't know about. It is God who chooses who believes and who doesn't. You are simply spouting more church doctrine that has nothing to do with truth. Have a good week. alan w