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To: Broken_Clock who wrote (3871)10/17/2006 11:48:30 PM
From: alan w  Respond to of 5569
 
I've already answered that question several times in this thread. The reason I'm not spending any more time on you is you ignore all the scripture I post that disagrees with your man made doctrines. Want proof?

In your post #3868 to me, you quoted the old testament verse that goes something like "choose this day whom you will serve". I guess that one "overrides" all the verses I posted to Sidney about so called "free will".(God chooses those who will respond to the gospel before they are born. Those who are admonished to "choose this day" can't do it without God convicting them.)What about all those verses I quoted?

But my point is you completely ignored these following verses and chose to find some "overriding" verses hoping I guess to annul the others.

This is the End, PLEASE ADDRESS THESE VERSES:

From my post to Sidney:
What about those God hid the gospel of Christ from? He
hardened the jews hearts against Christ. Their rejection was
for salvation of the nations. God's plan included placing a veil over them. Eyes not to be seeing and ears not to be hearing. (Romans 11) Notice Paul says God placed a stupor over them.

Most jews have died without knowing Christ because God won't let them see Him. Did they have "real free will"?

Absolutely not. Why? Because God planned it that way.

Jesus Himself said He spoke in parables because "to some it is given to know the secrets of the kingdom, yet to others it has not been given"Matt 13:11

God "hath concluded all in unbelief, so that He might have
mercy upon all" (Romans 11:32). No one believes UNTIL God
removes the veil.

No Sidney, we don't "choose" Christ, He chose us from the
foundation of the world
. Ephesians 1:4

"Believers are born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1:12&13

Let me help you here. The gospel of John says men can't believe of their own wills.

Of our own selves, we will never choose God. (Romans 3:10&11)

"And when the gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord, and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed Acts 13:48 Some are ordained to believe during this life and some are not.


Who ordains men to believe? They don't ordain themselves. God ordains them. Before the foundation of the world.

Now, This is the end, PLEASE ADDRESS these verses, and stop ignoring 95% of my posts.

PS: I know why you ignore the bulk of my posts. YOU HAVE NO RESPONSE. YOU CAN'T REFUTE THE SCRIPTURES I'VE QUOTED, YOU CAN ONLY TRY AND CONTRADICT THEM. SO YOU TRY AND CHANGE THE SUBJECT AND THEN ACCUSE ME OF NOT ANSWERING YOU.