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To: ManyMoose who wrote (83432)	10/17/2006 11:32:15 PM
From: coug	Respond to of 361426

Thank you Manny, For your nice response. But when one chisels away at our constitution and bill of rights, I get concerned.. And I wish all did.. I don't remember whenever another administration done the same as this one did in my memory.. And I started early, in single digits of my age.. :) For we were a very political family.. My mother was for Ike and my Dad for Stevenson, my earliest remembrance.. I just wish we could have either one NOW.. Or even a Kennedy or Goldwater.. :) (Notice, I left out Johnson and Nixon.<g,ng>) True Americans, all in all of the ones we supported.. m

To: ManyMoose who wrote (83432)	10/18/2006 12:31:10 AM
From: SiouxPal	Respond to of 361426

After they come for us they will come for you.

To: ManyMoose who wrote (83432)	10/18/2006 12:46:27 AM
From: Patricia Trinchero	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361426

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" Ben Franklin I think we all can agree that Ben Franklin is a great man and one of the founding father's of democracy. This day doesn't serve his memory well..

To: ManyMoose who wrote (83432)	10/18/2006 1:17:17 AM
From: SiouxPal	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 361426

Cheney: ‘General Overall Situation’ In Iraq Is Going ‘Remarkably Well’ He said that today. Cheney: ‘General Overall Situation’ In Iraq Is Going ‘Remarkably Well’ Rush Limbaugh interviewed Vice President Cheney on his show today. At one point, Limbaugh asked Cheney to respond to growing frustration over U.S. efforts in Iraq. Cheney acknowledged there is a “natural level of concern out there” because fighting didn’t end “instantaneously.” (Next month, the war will have lasted longer than U.S. fighting in World War II.) Cheney then pointed to various news items to paint a positive picture of conditions in Iraq and concluded, “If you look at the general overall situation, they’re doing remarkably well.”

To: ManyMoose who wrote (83432)	10/18/2006 10:52:31 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 361426

A Quick and Easy Test to Determine Where You Stand on the Iraq War: Let's say we line up, oh, hell, a couple hundred thousand American soldiers, fine men and women in combat uniform, officers, non-coms, grunts, and we put them on TV. Then George W. Bush walks in with a loaded glock. Now let's say that the President puts the gun to the temple of the first soldier and says, "If I shoot this Army private dead, there's a chance America will be victorious and democracy will bring peace to Iraq. Do you want me to do it?" There's no guarantees, though - just the chance. What would you say? For the sake of argument here, let's say that you answer, "Yes, it's worth a soldier for the chance for peace in Iraq." So George W. Bush shoots the soldier in the temple and turns to his advisors, who check reports and, no, still no peace. Then the President says, "If I cut off one limb or the genitals of the next ten soldiers, there's a chance America will be victorious and democracy will bring peace to Iraq. Do you want me to do it?" What would you say? For the sake of argument here, let's say that you answer, "Yes, it's worth ten wounded soldiers for the chance at peace in Iraq." So George W. Bush cuts off arms, legs, testicles, and turns to his advisors, who check reports and, no, still no peace. Then the President says, "If I beat the next ten soldiers in the head with a hammer so that their brains are damaged, there's a chance America will be victorious and democracy will bring peace to Iraq. Do you want me to do it?" What would you say? For the sake of argument here, let's say that you answer, "Yes, it's worth ten brain-damaged soldiers for the chance at peace in Iraq." So George W. Bush uses a hammer to crack the skulls of the next ten soldiers and turns to his advisors, who check reports and, no, still no peace. Then the President starts the cycle all over again. He places the gun to the temple of the next soldier. How many soldiers would you let George W. Bush shoot dead? One? 3000? More? How many would you let him injure? 10? 20,000? More? If you think the test is biased, unfair, and overly emotional, then you haven't been paying attention. For, really, and come on, is the current U.S. policy in Iraq any more wishful than a lottery of death and mutilation. Feel free to play with friends. For big fun, substitute Iraqis and multiply by a couple hundred. rudepundit.blogspot.com