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To: average joe who wrote (2486)	10/18/2006 7:56:51 AM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 20106

Re: Hatin Surucu just wanted to live her own life. Instead, she became Berlin's latest victim of honor killings. Her Turkish Muslim brothers allegedly gunned her down for adopting Western ways. Killing your own family for wanting a different life? And yet some people will claim that we simply do not "understand" their culture. Any culture which does this needs to be brought into the 21st century or walled in their own countries. There is simply no other way. Sometimes muslim communities belong in muslim countries.

To: average joe who wrote (2486)	10/18/2006 8:43:19 AM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 20106

Jordan convicts militant plotters BBC ^ \| 18 October 2006 news.bbc.co.uk A military court in Jordan has found eight Islamist militants guilty of plotting to kill US troops in Iraq and Americans and Jews in Jordan. The militants, three of whom are still on the run, were given sentences of between 10 and two years. The plot was led by Ahmed Shabaneh, who received the longest sentence. The crimes can carry the death penalty in Jordan, but the judge said reduced sentences would allow the accused a chance to reform themselves. Fugitives Ahmad Yassin and Haitham al-Gazzaz were also given a 10-year jail term, while the others were jailed for up to seven-and-a-half years. Jordan has claimed a series successes in foiling terror plot in recent years, but has also suffered several attacks on civilian, tourist and military targets. 'Honour' The five defendants in court shouted insults at the presiding judge as he delivered the sentence, calling him "the enemy and a tyrant". "The charges are an honour for us," they said from the metal cage in which they were kept. The court found Shabaneh had formed a militant group called the Victorious Sect in 2003, which plotted to send militants to join the anti-US insurgency in Iraq. It also planned to attack US-run training facilities for Iraqi police officers in the Jordanian desert. The indictment said Shabaneh was influenced by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the late Jordanian-born leader of the al-Qaeda in Iraq group. It said that after the 2003 US-led war on Iraq, Shabaneh decided "to strike at Americans and Jews and carry out military operations against them inside Jordan".

To: average joe who wrote (2486)	10/18/2006 10:28:02 AM
From: Triffin	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20106

Currently, six boys are serving time in Berlin's juvenile prison for honor killings. "In a way, these boys are victims, too," she said. Sometimes they are forced to kill their favorite sister. Really ??? Good thing it wasn't their least liked sister .. How about telling Mom or Dad or whomever 'forced' them to murder to do it themselves ????? We don't need these folks living amongst us .... If they find our western lifestyle so repugnant, then why are they subjecting themselves to it ?? Triff ..