To: bentway who wrote (206408 ) 10/18/2006 12:26:02 PM From: Ichy Smith Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 You will note Chris, that I was last in the hospital for any time when they took my tonsils out. I was in grade 4 I think, so Eisenhower was president. I haven't needed the system. But other people need it, and as the cost goes up, a number of services are being deleted. So a few years ago they dropped eye care, for anyone under 65. To have a great system, and watch it slowly collapsing due mostly to waste and poor planning is pretty difficult. I have the option, if I think I need an MRI, I just go across the border and buy one. The poor you talk about cannot do that, and like every other place those are the ones who suffer first. If they cannot find the fee to stay on a doctor's list, they don't have a doctor. If you don't have a family doctor often chronic conditions become worse. I make my once a year appointment, and pay my fee every year, But people with cancer are running fund raisers so they can go to Buffalo for Cancer Treatment, because it isn't available in Canada. Can you imagine dying because the treatment you need isn't available, and it is available 20 miles away, but you cannot afford it? If the US wants free medicare, someone has to evaluate the systems being used and figure out how to deliver good health care for a reasonable price. Making health care a government monopoly is not an answer. It is a government monopoly here, and the Federal government handles the money, and then the provincial government handles the money and then hospitals handle it. Think about your own state, if the money had to come from Georges Pocket according to whatever Georges priorities were, to your governors pocket and then according to his priorities doled out to the hospitals, how secure would your system be? So when Americans look to the health systems, and it will be the Liberals who lead that change, some one of you needs to know that what looks free and great in another country has lots of flaws. For instance there was a great way to treat macular degeneration discovered in Canada. It was readily available in the US and the UK 2 years before they approved it in Canada. Because it cost too much. Or perhaps you don't believe in universal healthcare?