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To: jttmab who wrote (206489)	10/19/2006 9:12:00 AM
From: Ichy Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Whine, whine, whine....Tell me why Canadians live longer and have a lower infant mortality rate if your system is so bad? Pure Stubbornness. Fewer Guns, less violence

To: jttmab who wrote (206489)	10/19/2006 10:24:28 AM
From: Ichy Smith	Respond to of 281500

How about this one....in the United States, our health care system kills approximately 100,000 people each year due to medical errors [population 300 million]. What are the comparable statistics for Canada Well that is easy to answer, maybe but the problem of non reporting, so as to avoid law suits, makes the statistics only estimates. The latest studies i can find is for 2000, and since 2000 the Canadian system has been deteriorating steadily, but since studies take time, and who wants to talk about worse results, the next one will probably not come out until they improve things, and then can use the old stats to prove how much they have improved them. ps.....We have 10% of the population of the US medicalnewstoday.com Medical errors in Canadian hospitals lead to 9000 – 24,000 deaths every year Main Category: Medical Malpractice / Litigation News Article Date: 24 May 2004 - 0:00am (PDT) \| email this article \| printer friendly \| view or write opinions \| A new study says that preventable medical errors in Canadian hospitals lead to thousands of deaths every year. Experts say that the totals, when taking into account population size and the numbers of patients in hospitals, are not that different from preventable medical error percentages and subsequent deaths in the USA, Great Britain and New Zealand. Dr. Foster, a Canadian Hospital Director, says that people should be aware of this. Otherwise, the population will get so alarmed that many sick people will stop going to hospital for treatment. The number of deaths would be much greater if people did not go to hospital for treatment. According to this new study, 7.5% of patients in the year 2,000 had an adverse event. An adverse event here means a complication or accidental injury. Out of the 2.5 million people who are admitted into hospital every year in Canada, about 9000 – 24,000 people died as a result of preventable adverse events (medical errors), says the study. The authors of the study went on to say that many of the patients who died were very old and very ill. ................................................................. adultaddstrengths.com June 5, 2005 Medical mistakes third leading cause of deaths in Canada Filed under: ADD Medication Pete Quily @ Cancer and heat disease are numbers 1 and 2. IAN GILLESPIE, from the London Free Press tells us a Canadian Medical Association Journal published a U. of Toronto study that looked at data from 20 hospitals in five provinces involving more than 3,700 patients. * As many as 23,750 patients die each year due to “adverse events” (defined by researchers as “unintended injuries or complications resulting in death or prolonged hospital stay that arise from health care management.”) * About one in every 13 patients admitted to acute- care hospitals in Canada during fiscal year 2000 experienced one or more adverse events. * About 37 per cent of these errors were highly preventable.” in other words human error. So more than 8,700 people die in this country from human error. This is not just a Canadian problem. A report from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) cites two studies showing that between 44,000 and 98,000 hospitalized Americans die each year due to medical mistakes. Why is there no public outcry about this? Do we expect that a certain number of us will die from preventable medical errors and just not worry about it? If you worked in an industry that killed 8700 people each year from your preventable errors, do you think your industry would continually get away with it year after year? Why does the public continue to accept this status quo? I’m not saying that people in other jobs don’t make mistakes, I do, we all do. But when most other people make mistakes, people don’t die. We need institutional and individual reform to change this. This is just the number of deaths. What about other medical mistakes that lead to side effects that aren’t fatal but still are damaging? How often have you got a prescription from your doctor that you can’t read? Why don’t we either makes them print legibly or make them print it out on a computer