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To: TimF who wrote (3308)	10/20/2006 10:20:46 PM
From: Gersh Avery	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10087

>So there is borrowing, but the income isn't the borrowing, its the various taxes (including the social security tax)< tax ... Wasn't that supposed to be a contribution into my account? And this account is loaned to the Fed via purchase of treasuries. So then .. even though they go through all of the motions of the contributors having some elements of ownership of the monies, it is now being called a tax. If it is a tax, then there would be no expectation ownership and/or return. If it is a tax then there would be no need to issue the treasuries in exchange for the money gathered. The use of the treasuries shows this is not a tax but is instead a real loan. Changes in the way words are used can be used to change public perceptions. A system was found where money being borrowed could be placed on the income side of the sheet. This was used to create a false impression of a balanced budget via use of the word "surplus." Be careful about the use of the words "social security tax." It is intended to get people used to the idea of the money not really being theirs.

To: TimF who wrote (3308)	10/22/2006 2:45:16 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

"Pakistan who is keeping its feet in both the boats –" =========================================================== Indian and US intelligence agencies will work closely to get rid or terrorism – is Musharraf scratching his head now? Sudhir chadda Oct. 21, 2006 Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns will be leading a large delegation of officials to New Delhi next month. India and America will work closely to monitor and neutralize terrorists. The two countries have decided that the terror operators must go. Pakistan who is keeping its feet in both the boats – officially anti-terror activities and behind the scene helping the terror operators against India is now in deep trouble. This is a clear signal to Musharraf that America will not tolerate any collaboration with any terrorists in any front.. Pakistan’s ISI is now worried. Super Indian signal and field intelligence are already hammering them. Now it has to face the same it is facing in its Afghan border. Afghan Government is now pointing out specific Pakistani allowances to the Americans. India will soon start doing the same. Pakistan’s terrorism can be neutralized if it is pressed from the West and the East. The biggest question now is about Bangladesh. The Chtagong hill is a mess. The terrorists have taken refuge there. Even they are making plans for bringing Osama Bin Laden there.