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To: LindyBill who wrote (183543)10/21/2006 9:21:32 AM
From: Ichy Smith  Respond to of 794212
 
Professor Plum left this classic comment in another post. It was too goo not to pull up front.)

It's tempting to think that educationists innocently look in the wrong place to explain low achievement and to raise it.


I went 55 years ago to a school where there were always 36 children in a class. We had no failures before grade 9, we all learned to read, write, and do basic arithmetic, algebra and geometry. We didn't have any (not one) children with ADD. We ran around like maniacs at recess, walked almost a mile 4 times a day, usually carrying books for homework. Although legally the teachers could beat us, they normally didn't, and when they did, we really had to ask for it. I learned phonics, although today I must admit that I have forgotten what exactly that entailed.

My nieces and nephews are now young adults. They cannot competently spell. They were never taught to do so. It wasn't important. They find it hard to add subtract, multiply, and divide, they learned on a calculator.

The problem is not the students, it is not ADD, it is not class size, the problem is foolish theories of bad teachers. It is a culture of thinking that things must not be to hard for the little darlings, and teachers should not be judged by the quality of the product they produce.

Teachers are not producing a quality product, it is time to suggest that those who cannot teach, find other employment. Standardize testing and fire every teacher who fails to produce. Not to do so is to fail the people who are our future.



To: LindyBill who wrote (183543)10/21/2006 11:55:23 AM
From: robert a belfer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 794212
 
Around the mid-80's when the military was down sizing there was a program that encouraged schools to hire prior service members who were forced to muster out or take early retirement. I do not recall the details but it seems that at least part of it was too pay part of their salary for a year or two.
No idea how well or poorly the program worked.