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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (3354)	10/21/2006 8:59:37 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 10087

California Candidate's Office, Home Raided Republican's Campaign Sent Intimidating Letters to Hispanics By PETER PRENGAMAN, AP GARDEN GROVE, Calif. (Oct. 21) - State investigators on Friday searched an office of a Republican congressional candidate whose campaign mailed thousands of intimidating letters to Hispanic immigrant voters. About 10 uniformed California Department of Justice agents arrived with a search warrant and could be seen opening cabinets, scouring desks and packing up a computer inside the storefront campaign office of Tan D. Nguyen, a Vietnamese immigrant trying to unseat a popular Democratic incumbent. Nguyen has acknowledged that his campaign sent the letter, which wrongly said immigrants could be jailed if they voted. He blamed a campaign worker he said he has fired. Nguyen has resisted calls from leaders in his own party to quit the race, saying he did not approve the letter and did not know about it. State and federal officials have been investigating the mailing for possible violations of election or civil rights law. "We're aggressively pursuing our investigation to determine exactly who is responsible for the letter," Nathan Barankin, spokesman for the state attorney general's office, said Friday. Nguyen was not in the Garden Grove office when agents arrived. A volunteer had said he planned to return for a mid-afternoon news conference, but instead his attorney, David Wiechert, arrived and cautioned against jumping to conclusions. "A search doesn't mean the person whose office is being searched is guilty," Wiechert said as about 200 people including journalists, illegal immigration protesters and local Democratic candidates milled outside the office. "This is a political firestorm of high-ranking Republicans and Democrats speculating about an investigation they have no knowledge of." County Republican Chairman Scott Baugh said Thursday that after speaking with state investigators and the company that distributed the "obnoxious and reprehensible" mailer, he concluded that Nguyen was personally involved. He said the party's executive committee voted unanimously to urge Nguyen to drop out of the race against Democratic Rep. Loretta Sanchez. The letter, written in Spanish, was mailed to an estimated 14,000 Democratic voters in central Orange County. It warns, "You are advised that if your residence in this country is illegal or you are an immigrant, voting in a federal election is a crime that could result in jail time." In fact, immigrants who are adult naturalized citizens are eligible to vote. Investigators met with Nguyen for two hours Thursday, said his attorney David Wiechert. "He would do the public a disservice if he dropped out," Wiechert said. Near Garden Grove in Santa Ana, Hispanic and Vietnamese leaders condemned the letter and said it should not become a wedge that drives their communities apart. They urged the secretary of state to send a letter to homes that received the mailing to clear up any questions about voter rights. "This letter reminds us of what we were running away from in Vietnam, where people can't vote the way they want," said Xuyen Dong, who heads the Orange County chapter of the Vietnamese Professional Society. Nguyen's campaign Web site says he was born in 1973 in Vietnam, where his family fled the Communist regime. In 2004, he unsuccessfully ran in the Democratic primary to challenge GOP Rep. Dana Rohrabacher in a heavily Republican coastal district. He later changed his party affiliation and declared his bid to upset Sanchez; he has made his opposition to illegal immigration a centerpiece of his campaign. Orange County for years has been a battleground on immigration issues. One founder of the Minuteman civilian border patrol group ran for Congress here, and cities have debated issues such as the value of public centers for day laborers and the use of local police to arrest illegal immigrants.

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (3354)	10/22/2006 6:00:08 AM
From: John Carragher	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

my kids all went to public schools, i didn't think i got a better education vs my public school friends other than religious. i was a lazy student so they told me. g when my daughter wanted to go to college, not ready tough, i contact a relative who ran an all girls catholic college. figured she would keep her in line and develop good study habits. my little girls went nuts , no way you sending me to all girls catholic school. ha so off to small mid west college. almost flunked out first grading period only she had a join sorority and they required b average to remain active and she was having a ball but not passing a thing. talk about motivation. she became a b student over night. best thing i ever did.

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (3354)	10/24/2006 2:58:24 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

Hi Bob, Our kids got to public school.. I did Catholic (mission school Kindergarten to grade 3, 'regular' Catholic school 4-7 and private Catholic boy's school for high school.. (Jesuits no less, no, no sad tails of molestations by Brothers or Priests just a good time).. I think religion should not be in schools. I don't know how your Catholic schools are. We take a Mandarin class at a Catholic school.. I feel like I'm walking into Church.. rather cloying I find now after all this time in the pagan public system ;o) with my kids.. :o) The kids do go to Sunday school, well the 14 year old was confirmed so she is done with that.. now she gets up early anyway to skate (yep she's still at it) :O) I am a little tired of hearing about 'friendship' trees in December though.. B