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To: ManyMoose who wrote (183693)	10/22/2006 10:35:09 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793927

There seem to be so many comparisons... >>>>>Copperheads nominally favored the Union but they strongly opposed the war, for which they blamed abolitionists, and they demanded immediate peace and resisted the draft laws. They wanted Lincoln and the Republicans ousted from power, seeing the president as a tyrant who was destroying American republican values with his despotic and arbitrary actions. <<<<< >>>>>Newspapers The Copperheads had numerous important newspapers, but the editors never formed any sort of informal alliance. In Chicago Wilbur F. Storey made the Chicago Times into Lincoln's most vituperative enemy. The New York Journal of Commerce, originally abolitionist, was sold to owners who became Copperheads, giving them an important voice in the largest city. A typical editor was Edward G. Roddy, owner of the Uniontown, Pennsylvania, Genius of Liberty. He was an intensely partisan Democrat who saw blacks as an inferior race and Abraham Lincoln as a despot and dunce. Although he supported the war effort in 1861 he blamed abolitionists for prolonging the war and denounced the government as increasingly despotic. By 1864 he was calling for peace at any price. John Mullaly's Metropolitan Record was the official Catholic paper in New York City. Reflecting Irish opinion, it supported the war until 1863, then became a Copperhead organ and the editor was arrested for draft resistance. The Copperhead rhetoric in their press was red-hot in displaying their hatreds and bitterness. "A large majority [of Copperheads]," declared an Ohio editor, "can see no reason why they should be shot for the benefit of niggers and Abolitionists." If "the despot Lincoln" tried to ram abolition and conscription down the throats of white men, "he would meet with the fate he deserves: hung, shot, or burned." [quoted in McPherson p 560] During the 1864 election a Wisconsin editor, Marcus M. Pomeroy, took the rhetoric to new levels. He wrote, Lincoln was "but the fungus from the corrupt womb of bigotry and fanaticism" .... "worse tyrant and more inhuman butcher than has existed since the days of Nero." As the election of 1864 approached, Pomeroy editorialized: "The man who votes for Lincoln now is a traitor and murderer.... And if he is elected to misgovern for another four years, we trust some bold hand will pierce his heart with dagger point for the public good." en.wikipedia.org

To: ManyMoose who wrote (183693)	10/22/2006 10:50:35 PM
From: Jaknik2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793927

Mannymoose I have no problem with reasonable/intelligent dissent either. In fact, I endorse it as long as it is based on facts and not political twisting, spinning or the like. Actually, I was hoping for someone's opine on this part of my post: Sometimes you have to make tough choices/decisions. If Lincoln had caved in to pressure, just imagine what our country might be like today. I often wonder what FDR; Truman and JFK would think of today's generation of the Demo party? Even though they were Demos, they had to make tough, unpopular decisions just like Lincoln. I don't think they would be pleased. Jak

To: ManyMoose who wrote (183693)	10/23/2006 12:37:45 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793927

Hope this gives everyone enough nightmares that we get everyone we know to vote... Representative Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California, who is in line to become speaker if her party wins the House, has put out the word that no one should be talking with too much certainty or detail about the days after Nov. 7. But even Ms. Pelosi has slipped on occasion. In a recent interview with The Associated Press, when asked which suite of offices she would use as speaker, she said with a laugh, “I’ll have any suite I want