To: TimF who wrote (3548 ) 10/25/2006 5:01:07 PM From: Wharf Rat Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 10087 Oh. Thanks. Actually, it is the reverse. And I don't know if I would keep Attila in that mix. Big Lie The phrase was also used (on page 51) in a report prepared during the war by the United States Office of Strategic Services in describing Hitler's psychological profile [1] His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives; never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it. - OSS report page 51 [2] en.wikipedia.org to which Sun Tzu (SI, not the original) added.. In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes. Early on in the war effort, I also dug up these quotes to highlight the similarity of the Nazi methods and the Neocons:Message 18705157 "We do not want a second catastrophe along the lines of (hidden date XXXX). We depend not on the grace of our enemy, rather on military might." "We hate THEM from the bottom of our souls because they threaten our very life, because they oppose our national existence out of envy, jealousy and ill-concealed national pride." "He knows that we are waging this war for a better peace, that we are fighting for the happiness of people who have so often been oppressed by their governments." "No power in the world will make us deny our duty, or forget even for a moment our historical task of maintaining the freedom of our people." "The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly...it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over." [ST: like saying "they did it because they are evil" and repeating it over and over again].