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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (2632)	10/26/2006 7:31:04 AM
From: Oral Roberts	Respond to of 20106

Lovely bunch those Muslim men. Never at fault for anything are they.

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (2632)	10/26/2006 10:50:01 AM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 20106

Different take, same story: Australian cleric's comments on rape trigger outrage ROHAN SULLIVAN theglobeandmail.com Associated Press SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA — One of Australia's senior-most Islamic clerics has triggered outrage after comments reported Thursday comparing women who don't wear a headscarf to “uncovered meat” who invite rape. Sheik Taj Aldin al Hilali denied he was condoning rape when he made the comments in a sermon last month, and apologized to any women he had offended, saying they were free to dress as they wished. The row comes during a heated debate in Britain about religious freedom centred around whether Muslim women should wear veils. Similar passions raged when France banned head scarves and other religious symbols in public schools two years ago. In Australia, there was widespread condemnation Thursday the cleric's comments, from other Muslim leaders, civil libertarians and political leaders. Related to this article Latest Comments I wonder if he cannot be prosecuted under hate laws, what he... Are only the women responsible if they are raped because they... Is this supposed to be a surprise? Using god and one's beliefs... For all the talk about head scarfs being for 'religious' purposes... 12 reader comments \| Comments closed Mr. Hilali was quoted in the Australian newspaper as saying in the sermon: “If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside ... without cover, and the cats come to eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat's.” “The uncovered meat is the problem. If she was in her room, in her home, in her hijab, no problem would have occurred,” he was quoted as saying, referring to the headdress worn by some Muslim women. Australia's Sex Discrimination Commissioner Pru Goward said Mr. Hilali's comment was an incitement to rape and that Australia's Muslims should force him to stand down. “This is inciting young men to a violent crime because it is the woman's fault,” Ms. Goward told television's Nine Network. “It is time the Islamic community did more than say they were horrified. I think it is time he left.” Prime Minister John Howard also rejected the comments as unacceptable. “They are appalling and reprehensible comments,” Mr. Howard told reporters. “The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous.” Mr. Hilali is the top cleric at Sydney's largest mosque, and is considered the most senior Islamic leader by many Muslims in Australia and New Zealand. He has in the past served as an adviser to the Australian government on Muslim issues, but triggered a controversy in 2004 for saying in a sermon in Lebanon that the Sept. 11 attacks were “God's work against the oppressors.” Mr. Hilali said later he did not mean that he supported the attacks, or terrorism. The latest furor comes at a time when relations between Australia's almost 300,000 Muslims and the majority Christian-heritage population are tense following riots last December that often pitted White gangs against youths of Middle Eastern decent. Mr. Howard offended some Muslims recently by singling out some Muslims as extremists who should adopt Australia's western liberal attitudes to women's rights. Many Muslims say they are increasingly treated with suspicion since the Sept. 11 and other international terrorist attacks. Waleed Aly, a member of the Islamic Council of Victoria state, said Mr. Hilali's comments would result in more antagonism toward Muslims. “I am expecting a deluge of hate mail,” he said. “I am expecting people to get abused in the street and get abused at work.” Mr. Hilali said in a statement he was shocked by Thursday's reaction to his sermon. “The presentation related to religious teachings on modesty and not to go to extremes in enticements, this does not condone rape, I condemn rape,” he said. “Women in our Australian society have the freedom and right to dress as they choose, the duty of man is to avert his glance or walk away,” he said.