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To: steve harris who wrote (307703)10/25/2006 8:15:06 PM
From: RetiredNow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571743
 
Nice imagination. Not very likely, though. So let me get this straight. Are we now in that round of typical Karl Rove propaganda that tries to scare Americans into voting Republican? Because it's not working on me.

I'm more scared of leaving our government in incompetent hands than I am of turning it over to new leaders. The thing Rovians don't understand is that Democrats aren't anti-military and they certainly aren't pro-Al Qaeda. They will also do what it takes to secure this country. For example, they might also do something about the insecure Mexican border, which Bush with his much vaunted security credentials has done NOTHING to secure.



To: steve harris who wrote (307703)10/25/2006 8:52:54 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571743
 
>Al Qaeda had picked December 7 because it was the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor, and because, just before Christmas, the Infidel holiday, it would destroy the Christmas shopping season so important to so many retailers, driving another nail into the national economy of the Great Satan. And it would destroy the festive spirit of the season for millions of Americans, perhaps for all. The perfect psyop. Psychological warfare. And the weather forecasters had predicted severe winter storms on both coasts during the week immediately after disaster.

Yay! War on Christmas! Take that, Santa!

-Z



To: steve harris who wrote (307703)10/26/2006 12:22:24 AM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1571743
 
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Thanks for sharing this piece of fiction with us.....now I understand why paranoia runs so high in the Republican camp. I bet this kind of stuff has been passed around for years.

Let's go through the story together and see where it doesn't make any sense.

In the spring of 2007, on a narrow, party-line vote, Congress, led by Senators John Kerry and Ted Kennedy and Barbara Boxer refused to authorize spending to continue the war in Iraq, and set September 30, 2007, as the deadline for complete withdrawal of American troops.

The likelihood that any of these senators would cutoff war funding overnite is truly the stuff of fiction. Neither of these three people are that stupid.

President Bush spoke to the country, to the American forces in Iraq, to those who had been there, and to the Iraqi people, to apologize for the short-sightedness and irresponsibility of the American congress and the tragedy he believed would follow after leaving task of nurturing a representative and stable government in Iraq half done, his voice choked, tears running down his stoic face, a betrayal of emotion for which he was resoundingly criticized and denounced in much of America's media.

This is a very emotional paragraph. However, there is nothing I have seen in the past six years to suggest that Mr. Bush is emotionally hooked into what he does. In addition, that stoic face is a bit of acting for the benefit of you all. He practices it when he's on the treadmill. I wouldn't take it all that seriously.

"The failure of many Americans, including many of the leading Democrats in Congress, and some Republicans, to fully appreciate the persistent, long-term threat posed to America's liberties and survival, and to the future of Liberal Democracies everywhere, by an Islamic Resistance Movement that envisions a world dominated and defined by an Islamic Caliphate of religious totalitarianism, and which will fight any war, make any sacrifice, suffer any hardship, and pay any price to achieve it, may prove to be the kind of blunder upon which the fate of America turns, and falls."

This is a quote right out of Hollywood. Its sounds good.....and its typical of the rhetoric that went around during the Cold War with the Soviets. I am sick of it mainly because it accomplishes little other than to scare people.

The Galaxy's wheels had scarcely retracted when Iraq erupted in the real civil war many had feared and foreseen, and which many others had predicted would not happen if only the American imperialists left Iraq. Sunni militias, Shia militias, and Al Qaeda militias ravaged and savaged the country, killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis known or suspected to have collaborated with the Americans, killing Shias for being Shias, Sunnis for being Sunnis, Americans for being Americans, and anyone else who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

In firefighting and with some diseases, its believed that letting the fire or the disease erupt into full flower is the best way to end the fire or the disease. That might be necessary with Iraq. I hope the Iraqis are smarter than that but then, they haven't shown a lot of smarts the past 3 years. Of course, there is always the possibility that like children who fight without regard to the welfare of their sibling because they expect their parents to break it up before it goes too far, having the American 'parent' no longer around might be all it takes for the insurgents to chill and behave more sensibly.

Her running mate, to the surprise of many, was San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, whose intelligence, charisma, and reputation as an indefatigable campaigner for gay marriage and the homeless of San Francisco helped solidify Clinton's support among liberal Democrats who only grudgingly forgave her for not openly opposing the Iraq war sooner, and the Clinton-Newsom ticket went to the top with a narrow 50.2% lead over Republican John McCain's 49.8% of the popular vote, despite, or perhaps because of, Clinton's and Newsom's lack of foreign policy and military experience.

Oh-oh.....almost as scary to GOPers as beheadings.

Kim Jong Il gloated. The deception had worked. The Americans were thinking in terms of long range intercontinental ballistic missiles with huge warheads that they could shoot out of the sky with their sophisticated billion-dollar anti-missile defense systems. He was thinking in terms of small warheads carried by small, medium range cruise missiles that could be launched from many places, and infiltrated close enough to slip in under the radar and hit America's coastal cities.

Can't be sure but I think you give Jong-il too much credit. Besides, he is under the thumb of his warlord, China.

The missiles had been built in a joint operation by North Korea and Iran, and tested in Iran, so they would not have to overfly any other country. The small nuclear warheads had only been tested deep underground. The GPS guidance and detonating systems had worked perfectly, after a few corrections. They flew fifty feet above sea level, and 500 feet above ground level on the last leg of the trip, using computers and terrain data modified from open market technology and flight directors, autopilots, adapted from commercial aviation units. They would adjust speed to arrive on target at specific times and altitudes, and detonate upon reaching the programmed GPS coordinates. They were not as adaptable and intelligent as American cruise missiles, but they did not need to be. Not for this mission.

From what I understand it will take more than a few corrections to improve the technology.

Vice-President Elect Gavin Newsom was in his bedroom at home in Pacific Heights, his window overlooking the Golden Gate and the Marin bluffs. He thought he heard an oddly loud crack of thunder and saw a flash reflected on the hills across the inlet, but it was a clear day and nothing else seemed out of place. He continued packing for the return trip to Washington, his second since the election, to continue his transition briefings and begin organizing his staff. His nomination as Hillary's running mate had come as a huge surprise, and he was elated.

Let me see.........Pacific Heights is roughly 2-3 miles at most from downtown SF and all Newsom heard was the crack of thunder?? Some how I think it would be louder that, assuming that it didn't devastate PH at the same time it took out downtown SF.

Okay. This is what I know," the officer said. "The US has apparently sustained multiple nuclear attacks in the last fifteen minutes, including Washington D.C. and San Francisco. Financial district. We're not sure how many, at least ten, maybe twenty.

20 nukes? That many. I'll let CJ address this issue.

"I know you haven't a lot of national and international experience." Cheney had thought of saying that Newsom had none, but Newsom would be too painfully aware of that. He didn't need reminding. "The President is missing and presumed dead. So is Mrs. Clinton. So you may become the next president, in about six weeks. I don't know. he Constitution says the Vice President succeeds a president who is dead or disabled, but it doesn't say what happens if the President Elect dies before being inaugurated. I suppose the Court will have to answer that, if we can cobble one together by then. In the meantime, I will assume you will be inaugurated. You'll have a steep learning curve, a real steep curve. All presidents do, under the best of circumstances, and these are not the best of circumstances.

This exchange between Newsom and Cheney is the least creditable part of the story. I don't want to go anywhere near it.

By Christmas, the American economy had imploded. Inflation soared, unemployment soared, businesses closed, cities that had suffered direct hits became ghost towns. Tax revenues evaporated, leaving state governments without funds to pay unemployment benefits or teachers' salaries. With the New York Stock Exchange gone, stock trading ended, and values plummeted. Retirement assets and pension funds disappeared in a wink. Nobody knew what to expect. Real estate crashed, and major banks filed for bankruptcy. With the collapse of the American economy, the largest on earth, the most productive country on earth, with just 5% of the global population producing one third of the global economic output, the rest of the global economy fell into chaos. Oil shipments stopped, food shipments stopped, and in that winter millions of people in third world countries starved to death.

Oh good.....just what Jong-il and Iran want.......the collapse of the global economy. I am sure Kraft has does his research and knows that Iran and NK want to go back to the Stone Age.

Thanks Steve. Now we understand better why Republicans tend to be scared. Stories like the one you just posted are guaranteed to scare the bejezus out of anyone.