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To: Elmer Phud who wrote (214996)	10/25/2006 11:01:06 PM
From: eracer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Re: What I think is missed here is that the vast majority of users don't spend their days playing graphics intensive games. Hard for these guys to grasp. The gaming market is huge. PCs currently play a fairly small part in it because gaming consoles have a much higher performance/price ratio than the average PC. A console can be bought for less than the price of a high-end video card alone, not including the rest of the system. I doubt AMD could do much to crack that market because hardware is sold near cost or at a loss while revenue from game licenses is expected to pick up the slack.

To: Elmer Phud who wrote (214996)	10/26/2006 1:13:36 AM
From: fastpathguru	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Sure it does, can you say Timna? A project for which I spent 6 weeks in Haifa supporting. What I think is missed here is that the vast majority of users don't spend their days playing graphics intensive games. Hard for these guys to grasp. Hard to tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but I think all the Fusion naysayers are being a touch premature with their pooh-pooh'ing, what with knowing next to nothing about a product that will launch in two years. If AMD can get great IGP-level graphics embedded on-die, they'll have a cost ADVANTAGE over another product that requires an off-board IGP chipset. Not to mention a performance advantage thanks to having all that nice streaming processor power nestled all tightly up against the cores. By then, the GPU pipelines will be 3 generations or so ahead of the up-n-coming R600, which will have 64 of them. Likely to be full 64b FP SIMD pipelines... I'd say 8 would be a nice number to kick off the Fusion product line. Far more dense pure computation resources than another core would add. Remember, stream processing... (Which will undoubtedly be embodied in discrete products sooner than Fusion CPUs are due.) I.e. 2d/3d/stereo graphics, physics, crypto, voice-recog, etc. in smaller, faster, cheaper devices... OLPC2.0... UMPCs... Wearable PCs... STBs... Just because ephud doesn't play games doesn't mean the rest of the world has to suffer with lame UI's. More integration, more performance, lower cost... I don't see the problem. fpg

To: Elmer Phud who wrote (214996)	10/26/2006 2:49:31 AM
From: _Jules	Respond to of 275872

From: ephud Read Replies (2) of 215022 smooth talking about producing $200 CPU/GPU processors with integrated graphix doesn't make sense. Sure it does, can you say Timna? A project for which I spent 6 weeks in Haifa supporting. What I think is missed here is that the vast majority of users don't spend their days playing graphics intensive games. Hard for these guys to grasp. "What I think is missed here is that the vast majority of users don't spend their days playing graphics intensive games. Hard for these guys to grasp." ephud. How about evenings? I have built many a machine whereas the customer used it for business day's, games after hours. Do you think all people think like you? Jules