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To: TobagoJack who wrote (10583)	10/26/2006 12:00:01 AM
From: que seria	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218387

Jay, the only heartburn around Pelosi will afflict those who have to listen to her. pelosi either suffers heart burn or comes off her platform? Most Americans can do as I do, and just never watch/listen to the Republocrats (i.e., both parties' politicos) spew their usual. Chinese leaders will have to engage Pelosi. But how could they think less of her than of ...? Then there's "when do you wish to stop borrowing money" Dems will be even less smart about respecting creditors. Good thing too. Better our gov't run out of creditors sooner than much later, with a much bigger debt and more impoverished citizenry. ... and yes, there is that place again, Tibet. Perhaps ms pelosi is ready to vacate N.America? Bad call! Our forefathers were just trying to till some soil in N. America, and next thing you know the natives had attitudes, horses and guns. They just wouldn't keep sharing their land! And where were their deeds to it anyway?! Later, the Mexicans weren't really using much of their land, and destiny called, so ... China, by contrast, just scarfed up a little, peaceful, culturally distinct nation of Buddhists! China's killing of Tibetans and erasure of cultural identity in Tibet since 1951 strikes me as less defensible because it violates more evolved standards, at least in the world at large then and since.

To: TobagoJack who wrote (10583)	10/26/2006 2:13:25 AM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 218387

Parts of the Tom Plate article seems to be translated, possibly from Mandarin ? This phrase, "hard heart and tough mind" is very odd in English - >>>will someday show that her hard heart and tough mind on the matter of China<<<< This is odd too "higher platform" - >>>>Pelosi's rise to power might also provide a higher platform in the nation's capital for others who harbor doubts...<<< ************** The Democratic party doesn't have much of a "human rights wing" .... mostly some Hollywood types who find Tibet to be trendy. Watch them suck up to Castro, Chavez and other dictators. Much of San Francisco politics influenced by Senator Diane Finestein and friends, who are pretty far on along the pro-China spectrum. I expect some of what we are seeing is postturing for trade unions. Now foreign policy iniatives and treaties need to be approved by the Senate, the upper house. Nancy Pelosi will be in the lower house, with considerably less influence on foreign policy. *************** "no knee jerk leftist ?" She is often described as "rabid" by right wing talk radio hosts. ***************** Most of US China policy is decided by the foreign policy establishment, such as the Council on Foreign Realtions, senior military and intelligence people, with some selfless help from Wall Street .... more later

To: TobagoJack who wrote (10583)	10/26/2006 3:32:55 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 218387

TJ, comparing currently barbaric Chinese with historical events in America is silly. <there is that place again, Tibet. Perhaps ms pelosi is ready to vacate N.America?> Chinese soldiers recently shot people trying to escape from Tibet to Nepal. Hideous barbarians. I don't think Taiwanese will go quietly into the night, inevitably or otherwise. When you watch Tibetan escapees get shot, do you drool, or think "That'll show them who's boss", or what? I suppose it is a couldn't care less, "Just is" or, in USA parlance, a nihilistic "Whatever". The barbarians who murder in Tibet are alive today. There's nobody conducting genocidal military operations against American natives now. It is generations ago TJ. Moaning about then is pointless. It happened long ago and everyone from then died long ago. Moaning about Chinese murderous cruelty in Tibet is perfectly reasonable as they plan to do more of it tomorrow. Mqurice