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To: drjohn who wrote (215035)	10/26/2006 8:01:20 AM
From: pgerassi	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 275872

Drjohn: It doesn't matter when a notebook was made. No Intel notebook has a 1333MHz FSB. Hence, no Intel notebook could use anything faster than 533MHz DDR. No Intel PC uses faster DDR2 either unless they overclock both the FSB and the memory. Then or now. Name any current Intel chipset that uses 1333MHz for the desktop, much less a notebook. Even X6800 Conroes only use a 1066MHz FSB. Meroms have a 166MHz QDR FSB (667MHz) which only uses a single channel of DDR2 667MHz or two DDR2 channels of DDR2 333MHz. And any S1 or AM2 AMD based notebooks can use 800MHz and up DDR2. Its just that no mainstream OEM ships 800MHz DDR2 in their AMD notebooks. Even some of the older AMD DTR notebooks with 939 socket CPUs could outrun Merom as far as memory BW as they had twin 400MHz DDR1 (some could even use twin 533MHz DDR1 (PC4200)). Those high end OEMs that would ship PC2-6400 (800MHz DDR2) also use discrete GPUs which makes them irrelevant to the initial debate about integrated GPU performance. Intel didn't lose that comparison because the memory was slower, it lost because its GPU is a crappy performer. Even the competition's mid range integrated GPUs beat it. And that wouldn't change with faster memory or more memory. More memory only helps those benchmarks with high detail and resolution neither of which is found in integrated GPU notebooks or in the benchmarks used in the comparison. Just because Merom can't use more than a single channel of PC2-5400 in its notebooks with integrated GPUs doesn't require AMD to stop using two channels of PC2-6400 in theirs with integrated GPUs. ATI, nVidia and even SIS and VIA all have better integrated GPUs than Intel. If Centrino didn't require an Intel NB, most OEMs would likely use either nVidia's or ATI's IGP NBs. They are both cheaper and faster. So you get an F for reading comprehension. No one can become a "Doctor" without reading comprehension. Thus either you are no "Doctor" or just have tunnel vision. Anything bad for Intel just slips past your notice. Go to a real doctor to get that fixed. Pete