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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (207084)	10/27/2006 8:21:46 AM
From: see clearly now	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

" This is the point of the US invasion - a return on investment on the hundreds of billions of dollars of US taxpayers' money spent" Could you explain how the US Taxpayers get money out of this? Does anyone know what the two Largest US oil companies actually paid in taxes last year?

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (207084)	10/27/2006 9:19:04 AM
From: Keith Feral	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Interesting article, indeed. I liked the oil arrangements that kept US companies at arms distance as marketing partners. In essence, Iraqi law was designed to prevent US companies from owning any interest in the oil reserves in Iraq. However, we would provide all the capital for the drilling projects and buy the oil directly from the Iraqi companies. It seems obvious that directs psa's will be perceived negatively by the Iraqis or the war critics. This is a great point of attack for the democrats going into the mid terms. With Iraq supplying a total of 300,000 bpd to the US, I hardly see any strategic importance for Iraqi oil as OPEC is cutting back production to 28 million bpd. However, it's time for the Michael Moore liberals to voice their big oil conspiracy theories all over again. Canada and Mexico are the 2 main importers of oil for the US. Venezuela is falling behind and the Saudis are set to cut back production. Right now, there is a glut of gasoline and natural gas that has destroyed refining margins over the past year. I don't accept any logic behind the coalition of the drilling at this point in time.

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (207084)	10/27/2006 10:16:10 AM
From: Dennis O'Bell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

During the entire build up to the war, I was completely convinced that it was a bluff ! Neither I nor any of my friends believed we'd actually go to war, and I remember exchanging email just after the first cruise missiles were launched to the effect of "well, I guess we'll find out what happens now." About everyone I knew believed it had to do with oil and Halliburton, right from the securing of the Oil Ministry, this was so obvious it isn't worth comment. I'm also convinced that the Bush administration believed that they'd win on all tables, with Iraqis welcoming us with flowers and wide open pussies. Remember all that "Shock and Awe" idiocy ? Cheney of course knew that even if things went south, that compared to the death toll on American highways due to drunken driving, the death toll in America due to handgun violence, and compared to our national budget, that even several $trillion in tax dollars wouldn't sink us, and it would be no problem. Our national budget is so huge that the some 4 % of it we're spending in Iraq isn't by itself going to sink the United States ! These cynical REMFs like Cheney know exactly what they're doing. Bush of course is a total moron, and has all along believed his own lies. He's Born Again, and being Born Again means walking away from one's mistakes, like declaring bankruptcy (which of course, his administration doesn't want the average American who's saddled with medical bills to be able to do any more.) Bush is Born Again, and needn't have qualms about burning a frat brother at Yale with a hot poker, or any of his other "missteps" in the past, and he will never be held accountable. In any case, I was dead wrong in believing that we were bluffing before the war, and it's turned out worse than I imagined, but it was clear to anybody with a brain what the game really was. The public won't hear this on Fox Fictional News, and I suspect that as long as gas pump prices aren't too high the average American could care less either. The war in Iraq is still pretty much an abstraction to most people. What will hopefully drive these Right Wing creeps out of office will be domestic issues that are bugging people, even if the large, corrupt, picture of this war in Iraq is a huge cause for putting these people who lied and dragged us into it behind bars like the Enron executives or Bernie Ebbers.