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To: TimF who wrote (30761)	11/1/2006 2:29:12 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541702

>> I was talking about credibility in terms of current or potential allies thinking they can stand by us because we will stand by them, rather then abandoning them when the going gets tough. Ok, I can live with that. But as I pointed out before, US foreign policy is always at the mercy of domestic politics and there is no way this will change in the foreseeable future. So how do you plan to achieve a credible reputation, when at most the life of a promise is the length of an administration and even that is very iffy is the domestic politics changes.

To: TimF who wrote (30761)	11/3/2006 7:23:50 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Respond to of 541702

Frankly, we're running out of buses. Friday, November 03 2006 @ 06:29 EST Goddamn. Boehner throws the generals under the bus, the Neocons throw Bush under the bus... and now Chalabi throws Wolfowitz under the bus. Now, in an interview in his London home, Chalabi, betraying what Filkins calls “a touch of bitterness,” declares, “The real culprit in all this is Wolfowitz,” the former assistant secretary of defense, whom he still considers a friend. “They chickened out. The Pentagon guys chickened out…The Americans screwed it up.” But that’s not because they did too little but, rather, too much. Chalabi thinks the U.S. should have exited quickly and turned things over to Iraqis, such as himself and Moktada al-Sadr. “It was a puppet show!" he says referring to the occupation. “The worst of all worlds. We were in charge, and we had no power.” He adds: “America betrays its friends. It sets them up and betrays them. I’d rather be America’s enemy.” This would all be pretty amusing if we weren't out over $350 billion and hadn't lost nearly 3,000 American kids because of it. blah3.com