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To: Machaon who wrote (752983)11/1/2006 2:41:49 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Like water off a duck's back... you seem resistant to any thinking that doesn't come straight off of whatever illogical set of Talking Points you are using as your reference.

STOP and THINK for just a minute.

(Honest, it *won't hurt*.)

Re: "The Iranian backed IslamoFascist Shiites would take over...."

Er --- you are conveniently ignoring all of the OPPOSITION they will face from the SUNNI side of the war! And from all the ARABS who Aren't PERSIANS.

(And, PS... strictly FYI: the one thing they *ain't* is 'Fascists'. Fascism was a melding of CORPORATE POWER with Authoritarian Government (why Mussolini preferred to call it "Corporatism".... Islamic Fundamentalism may desire Theocracy and Authoritarianism... but that DON'T make it 'Fascism', or 'Communism'. LOL!)

Re: "The Sunni nations would meekly oppose Iran, just as they do right now. If anything, these Sunni nations will need help from the US in order to protect them from Iran."

You 'know' this, HOW?????????????

(Sure, no doubt they'd PREFER for Uncle Sucker to do all the fighting FOR THEM... but, who wouldn't? Still, that don't make it a bright idea for us to choose ONE set of fundamentalists to fight, and ONE set of fundamentalists to help. That's about the DUMBEST IDEA EVER! Anyway --- as I ALREADY pointed out --- the Sunni nations are ALREADY deeply involved in supplying and supporting the Sunni insurgents fighting the Shiites. No doubt they will *stay* involved.)

Re: "Egypt is majority Sunni. I wonder why Egypt is currently asking for help from Russia, in order to restart Egypt's nuclear program."

Russian reactors under-price GE. I assume that's a reason... but what the Hell does that have to do with the Iraq Civil War we were talking about??????????????

Re: "Iran would finance an ...war against the rest of the Middle East."

(Good for us if they tried! BOTH sets of extremists, on BOTH sides would fight each other to exhaustion and - ultimately - perhaps an Islamic Reformation with respect for pluralism could result. All VERY good for Western long-term strategic interests! Can you even *remember* the 10 year long Iran/Iraq Gulf War? That was just *two* countries....)

"The other nations in the Middle East will not be able to defend against it."

BULL!

Re: "Iran would eventually dominate the Middle East just like Hitler dominated Europe."

LOL!!!!!!!!

(Gee... aren't you FORGETTING one other salient little historic detail of some importance? What was it... oh, YEAH: Stalin, the DICTATOR on the other side!)



To: Machaon who wrote (752983)11/2/2006 10:37:18 PM
From: Peter Dierks  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
"The people of Iraq will never have a chance for self-determination if the US pulls out. The Iranian backed IslamoFascist Shiites would take over and create another regime, like the others in the area, that brutally enslaves the minds and bodies of the people."

Those are very true words my friend. It is interesting to see how few recognise how important freedom is.