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To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (123864)	11/2/2006 4:18:09 PM
From: Oral Roberts	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 225578

I had to go talk with the principal when my 13 year old daughter positively mauled this 14 year old boy. This kid was punching a girl in the face and beating her up badly and nobody was doing anything about it until Amanda arrived on the scene. Absolutely whipped this kid. His glasses got broke, a tooth chipped, stitches under his chin. Incredible. Once I was done laughing at all of this the principal asked me what I was going to tell Amanda and I told him I was going to tell her I was proud as hell that she stepped in and kept this lump from continuing to beat on that girl. He said I would tell her the same but I have no choice but to suspend her as all parties are sent on a 3 day in a fight. I still chuckle about that little twerp every time I see him in town.

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (123864)	11/2/2006 4:27:20 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 225578

I don't blame you at all for pride in your son's defense of himself. I would go just as you describe, right up until the joke about Rocky. Don't give him that nickname, nor glorify fighting, nor express pride in the shiner he dished out. Keep that to yourself. He'll definitely come out a better kid if you go over the alternative choices he could have made and discuss them with him. Make it clear that he does not have to let people walk all over him, but sometimes it is better to just walk away, and resolving the conflict by working it out without fighting might be the best way most of the time. I don't claim to be the world's greatest father, so you can take what I say or leave it.

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (123864)	11/2/2006 6:03:05 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 225578

<<and the Principal>> Nice, you got principal right, better than most SI spellers. When I was a senior the Lit. teacher wanted a term paper about the importance of the mud in "Lord of the Flies". 5 pages no less. I read the book and I saw the mud as a minor thing and didn't write the paper. Late May I get called to the Principal's office and there sits my MOTHER. I'm trying to figure out who I killed that they caught me at. He tells me that I didn't write the term paper, like I didn't know that. I could write it now and get an F but if I don't I get an incomplete and can't graduate. I tell him ok, don't graduate me. G. Elwood says " But you are in our first accelerated program and if you don't graduate it will kill the program!!" Talk about sinking the ship after losing the life boats. He needed to read "The Art of the Deal". I wrote Lord of the Flies and my name on a sheet of paper, he put a B on it and gave it to the teacher pre graded.

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (123864)	11/2/2006 7:08:14 PM
From: Honor First	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 225578

He then said no - thats the teachers job. Oh really!! It's the parent's responsibility (granted some give up their responsibility before conception). It's the teachers job to teach and keep order in the class. I wonder when that will ever come back into fashion... excuse me... just a little personal observation here :) """I said then why am I here?""" hehehe... you get to be there so you can see how he failed in his job to defend the children... LOL.. I loved the question. Great for not giving him an out. He needs to learn to 'think' outside of his classroom/principal office box. Verbal purgatory... hehehehe... love the expression :) you said:"""""""""""I'm not going to argue in front of a child! """"""""""" From the way you have presented the mother previously, I would say that includes both of them (child)... she doesn't sound ready to do anything but defend 'darling baby'... anyway at this time. you said: """"""" We'll have a little pizza and have a man to little man talk and I'll make damn sure that he comes out a better kid because or in spite of what happened. I'm really proud that I allowed him to make the decision rather than doing it for him. He can't learn from my experiences anymore than I could learn from my fathers. You learn from personal experience and thats what we'll work with tonight."""""" Two things... sounds neat about the pizza dinner and man to little :) man talk! and... you may not necessarily learn from another's experiences but I do think one makes many many decisions based not only on their own experiences but on their observations of others. He is also learning this evening how a good father deals with his son. That alone is worth Gold! Thanks for the follow-up... :) I'm still smiling... verbal purgatory, indeed... hehehehe

To: Augustus Gloop who wrote (123864)	11/3/2006 9:18:57 AM
From: PatiBob	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 225578

I've been through that with my oldest boy when he was in grade school. I understand the administration not wanting kids to just go off on their own and exact justice but I do see a need for when the system fails a child, for them to defend their selves. Teachers can't be everywhere all the time and they don't see everything. I've always told my kids when someone throws the first punch, try and walk away, if that's not possible and the punches keep coming, they have every right to beat that person to the ground if need be.