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To: Sully- who wrote (52966)11/4/2006 6:22:32 PM
From: Cogito  Respond to of 90947
 
Sully -

Thanks for those links.

Here are some excerpts from the "Report on the U.S. INTELLIGENCE Community's Prewar INTELLIGENCE Assessments on Iraq" [inexplicable caps yours].

From the section about WMD:

"3. Overall Conclusions - Weapons of Mass Destruction

"(U) Conclusion 1. Most of the major key judgments in the Intelligence Community's October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), Iraq's Continuing Programs for Weapons of Mass Destruction, either overstated, or were not supported by, the underlying intelligence reporting. A series of failures, particularly in analytic trade craft, led to the mischaracterization of the intelligence.

"(U) The major key judgments in the NIE, particularly that Iraq "is reconstituting its nuclear program," "has chemical and biological weapons," was developing an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) "probably intended to deliver biological warfare agents," and that "all key aspects - research & development (R&D), production, and weaponization - of Iraq's offensive biological weapons (BW) program are active and that most elements are larger and more advanced than they were before the Gulf War," either overstated, or were not supported by, the underlying intelligence reporting provided to the Committee. The assessments regarding Iraq's continued development of prohibited ballistic missiles were reasonable, and did accurately describe the underlying intelligence.

"(U) The assessment that Iraq "is reconstituting its nuclear program" was not supported by the intelligence provided to the Committee. The intelligence reporting did show that Iraq was procuring dual-use equipment that had potential nuclear applications, but all of the equipment had conventional military or industrial applications. In addition, none of the intelligence reporting indicated that the equipment was being procured for suspect nuclear facilities. Intelligence reporting also showed that former Iraqi nuclear scientists continued to work at former nuclear facilities and organizations, but the reporting did not show that this cadre of nuclear personnel had recently been regrouped or enhanced, as stated in the NIE, nor did it suggest that they were engaged in work related to a nuclear weapons program."

Just a few paragraphs later, this set of conclusions continues, ending thusly:

"(U) The failure of the IC to accurately analyze and describe the intelligence in the NIE was the result of a combination of systemic weaknesses, primarily in analytic trade craft, compounded by a lack of information sharing, poor management, and inadequate intelligence collection. Many of these weaknesses, which are described in detail below, have not yet been fully addressed, despite having been identified previously by other inquiry panels, including the Joint Inquiry into Intelligence Community Activities Before and After the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2002 (2002) [sic], The Intelligence Community's Performance on the Indian Nuclear Tests (The Jeremiah Report, 1998), and the Report of the Commission to Assess the Ballistic Missile Threat to the United States (The Rumsfeld Commission, 1998). The Committee found no evidence that the IC's mischaracterization or exaggeration of the intelligence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction (WMD) capabilities was the result of political pressure."

That last sentence, at least, has given the Bush Administration the out that they didn't really know the intelligence was bad, so they didn't lie. It's amazing, though, in the light of the fact that Rumsfeld himself had headed a commission which identified systemic weaknesses in the IC's ability to provide credible analysis, weaknesses that the 2004 commission says remained unaddressed at that time, that he didn't object to George Tenet receiving the Medal of Freedom.

Also, even knowing what he obviously knew already about the poor quality of intelligence reporting, he either didn't look past the NIE into some of the raw intelligence data, nor did he question any of the NIE's conclusions.

I'm sorry, Sully, weren't you trying to prove that there actually were WMD's? Wasn't that why you posted the link to this document? Oh, no. This was just about the yellowcake.

Well I'm tired now. I'll have to get back to you about the yellowcake.

- Allen



To: Sully- who wrote (52966)11/4/2006 6:42:32 PM
From: Cogito  Respond to of 90947
 
Sully -

Well, it wasn't too hard to find some yellowcake info in the Senate Intelligence Committee's report.

Here's a relevant excerpt [emphasis mine]:

"The Committe did not find that the information showed Iraq was 'vigorously trying to procure uranium" as indicated in the NIE, bit it did indicate that Iraq may have been trying to acquire uranium."

Doesn't sound like a closed case to me, but I haven't yet read the Butler report, nor have I yet read the whole "Niger" section of this SIC report. I've just read their summation of it so far.

Is it known that Saddam already had roughly 550 tons of yellowcake and unenriched uranium that were known to and annually inspected by IAEA, and that information was included in the NIE report of 2002.

As we've already seen from the Senate Intelligence Committee's report, to which you provided the link, the intelligence we had showed that Saddam did not have an active nuclear weapons program.

- Allen



To: Sully- who wrote (52966)11/4/2006 6:53:13 PM
From: Cogito  Respond to of 90947
 
Sully -

Again, from the SIC report, on the subject of a relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda. This section is mostly censored, not surprisingly. Here's one of the few intact paragraphs.

"(U) Conclusion 93. The Central Intelligence Agency reasonably assessed that there were likely several instances of contacts between Iraq and al-Qaida throughout the 1990s, but that these contacts did not add up to an established formal relationship."

In other words, not only did the raw data support the idea that there was no working relationship between Iraq and "al-Qaida" (as they spell it here), but that the NIE for once had gotten it right and told the Bush Administration so. Again, this agrees with the conclusion drawn by the 9/11 commission.

This report also speaks of Saddam "reaching out" to terrorist groups like Hamas, with the intention of seeking their support in the event of a U.S. invasion of Iraq. That's not anywhere near the same as offering them chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons (which he didn't have anyway) to do with as they pleased.

Once again, thanks for providing the link to that report. I'd seen it before, but it's great to take a stroll down memory lane.

- Allen