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To: Taro who wrote (309112)	11/5/2006 9:18:28 AM
From: steve harris	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572750

A vote for the dems is a vote for the terrorists... worldnetdaily.com "Of course Americans should vote Democrat," Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group and the infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, told WND. "This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud," said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

To: Taro who wrote (309112)	11/5/2006 10:04:50 AM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572750

It was a sham trial from beginning to end. What I see going on Iraq can be summarized pretty succinctly. It has all the earmarks of a free and Democratic society, but none of the infrastructure or cutlural mentality to sustain it. In other words, they have elections, they have a judiciary, they have an army, they have a parliament and a PM, but they don't have a culture geared to consensus. They don't have restraint on corruption. They don't have the ability to resolve arguments without resorting to factional violence. They don't have the willpower to stand up to tyrants. They don't have the desire to die for their freedom and the right to elect their own officials. They don't have a thriving middle class. Can the US give those things to the Iraqi people? The answer is a resounding NO! We could give them a start by overthrowing Saddam and by training their army to be professional and by giving them enough breathing room to write a constitution and have elections. Beyond that, which we've already accomplished, there is nothing more we can do. Why are we still there? They are on a course now, over which we will have no impact, no matter how long we stay. It's all a collossal waste of American lives, money, prestige, and the return on investment to the US is zero.