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To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (9844)	11/8/2006 2:48:15 PM
From: scion	Respond to of 12465

Court Grants Appeal in AT&T Spying Case EFF Battles Effort to Dismiss Surveillance Lawsuit San Francisco - The U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals announced today that it will hear the U.S. government's and AT&T's appeal of a district court's decision allowing the Electronic Frontier Foundation's (EFF's) case against AT&T to go forward. The lawsuit alleges that AT&T collaborated in the National Security Agency's (NSA's) illegal spying program. The 9th Circuit did not rule on the merits of the appeal. By this appeal, the U.S. government and AT&T are asserting that the so-called "state secret privilege" prevents the federal judiciary from determining whether the spying program is legal or not. In July, U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Judge Walker ruled that the case could continue, noting that "The compromise between liberty and security remains a difficult one. But dismissing this case at the outset would sacrifice liberty for no apparent enhancement of security." "It remains the province and the duty of the courts to determine whether the spying program broke the law, and the courts are quite capable of proceeding while respecting both liberty and security," said EFF Staff Attorney Kurt Opsahl. "We are looking forward to litigating before the 9th Circuit on this important matter." EFF filed the class-action suit against AT&T in January, alleging that the company has given the NSA secret, direct access to the telephone calls and emails going over its network. In a separate case, a federal judge in Detroit ruled in August that the entire program was unconstitutional. Judge Walker has set a case management conference for November 17th to consider how EFF's lawsuit and other suits against telecommunications companies can go forward. The hearing will start at 10:30am at the U.S. District Court in San Francisco. For the full order from the 9th Circuit: eff.org For more on the class-action lawsuit against AT&T: eff.org Contacts: Kevin Bankston Staff Attorney Electronic Frontier Foundation bankston@eff.org Kurt Opsahl Staff Attorney Electronic Frontier Foundation kurt@eff.org eff.org

To: Jeffrey S. Mitchell who wrote (9844)	8/17/2007 3:09:46 AM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell	Respond to of 12465

Re: 8/16/07 - [PLNI] "Where ever they go, whatever stock they turn to next... I'll be there... collecting and reporting." Background: Plasticon and its wholly owned subsidiary Pro-Mold recently declared bankruptcy. The CEO, James Turek, just finished his own personal bankruptcy as well as those of two other prior wholly owned subsidiaries back when the company was known as Wicklund. Turek's attorneys are apparently being forced out because they withheld information that would have identified a conflict of interest, and Turek himself faces an indictment by the US Attorney for fraud. Nevertheless, it's still the fault of the bashers, who therefore should be cyberstalked "until I end my days." Pathetic. ----- Posted by: rrm_bcnu In reply to: DTL who wrote msg# 31541 Date:8/16/2007 10:27:17 PM Post #of 31549 DTL, I believe they were deposed. Need to check back to be sure. You know, what really angers me the most about those who revel in their joy about taking down PLNI is that they don't seem to care one bit about the people and lives that the whole incident represents. The employess of Plasticon and ProMold are in real danger of losing their livelihood as the kids go back to school and the holidays approach. The shareholders who invested could see the trading in PLNIQ stopped by the SEC. Some I know have hundreds of millions of shares, their entire life savings involved. The gloaters just say "Hey, they bought their ticket, let em die!" This isn't about who wins anymore. This is about what is right and what is wrong. Those of us who have fought against the manipulation we saw in the trading of PLNI, who are shareholders and have been threatened with lawsuits, and in some cases personal threats, will be on the trail of those who did this for the rest of our lives. I have no reason not to continue to collect evidence on those who gloat about this until I end my days. Where ever they go, whatever stock they turn to next... I'll be there... collecting and reporting. If someone in Plasticon is responsible for misdeeds I hope the Trustee uncovers it and takes action. I also hope that the Trustee examines the Issued vs the Outstanding of shares held in street name in detail and advises the 12,000+ shareholders as to that status in an official court document. If the Trustee examines the daily trading stream of PLNI they can't help but witness the bogus trading and manipulative actions we witnessed. We finally have someone examining the truth... and although that is a strong positive in the battle for good, it may result in all of the shareholders losing everything they invested in. The only winner in that situation would be those who hold phantom shares they've already been paid for. They would never have to worry about covering and paying taxes on something that doesn't exist any longer.. now would they. rrm siliconinvestor.com