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To: elmatador who wrote (11253)	11/8/2006 9:49:11 AM
From: gg cox	Respond to of 218151

All those words elmat, and not a mention of the biggest water hog in human history the flush toilet.Never mind , investing in pumps, well you can if you wish,do yourself a favor and invest in a Caroma 3/6 l...the smartest device Australia ever produced..matter of fact just got off that throne and away it all went with just 3 l<g>I think the Brits are working on one that only uses 1 l combined with lid forced air flush..prototype stage.Grey water should be used to flush that crapper also..money to be made there too ..i think Japan and China does this. If sewage can not be treated and governments refuse to act, maybe they could mandate the use and rebirth of the out house...efficient and filtered by the earth if enough under it, a natural filter that you don't have to pay for. Speculative water remediation florida and Califonia company with large blocks held by a few and a bank..why?? PDT ???

To: elmatador who wrote (11253)	11/26/2007 12:39:13 PM
From: gg cox	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 218151

Elmatador eh, a new addition to <<<2025 water will be the most grave resource problem in the global economy.>>> theme. Grey water recycling to toilet, last quarter of video explains system.Might be of interest to remodeler Snow, builder pezz and Torontonian K to spread the word to his mayor.<g> bracsystems.com Of course Caroma first, at 3 litre per use. treehugger.com And coming soon at 1.5 litre per use. propelair.com Waterwall waterwall.com.au Freshwaterthink.

To: elmatador who wrote (11253)	11/27/2007 12:41:40 AM
From: Archie Meeties	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 218151

Timely post. Here in the Western US the snowpack is going down yoy, and climate models projecting current trends call for snow free mountains in CO by the end of the century. RM snowpack is the primary source of water for the mountain west. Some ski resorts are now beginning to use snowmachines to keep the usual season - unheard of in the higher elevations of CO. Some of the data I've crunched through recently looks at the the following situation If water resources are considered finite, does this affect the choice of energy generation? Consider these numbers: new coal plants evaporate 0.5 gallons of water per KWH of energy. The productivity of water in California (admittedly this is an extreme case as California excels in water productivity) is about $8.50 per 100 gallons. This comes out to 0.045 cents per KWH. So one way municipalities offering free water to coal plants should look at numbers is to see that coal fired generation sucks out 4 cents per KWH from some other productive use of water. Unless you have a surfeit of water (in which case you should be using hydro) this consideration makes coal obsolete instantly in areas of finite water resource. Given finite water, wind is far cheaper than coal, and solar will close the gap soon. I'm just leaving out health and environmental costs (got mercury?). Of course, at the moment water is just treated in most areas like its an infinite resource; with a few notable exceptions these choices are never raised. But they will soon (maybe in January in Atlanta, lol). nrel.gov. PNW= pac NW, CRM = Co RM, etc. smig.usgs.gov/SMIG/features_0300/snowpack_gcm.fig10.gif