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To: carranza2 who wrote (11312)	11/9/2006 12:35:05 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 218069

Hi C2. Interesting about the brake fluid. If stuck in the boondocks, I wouldn't have much compunction in doing that either. It would reduce the boiling point of the fluid a lot if it got down into the brake cylinder, which wouldn't be a big problem if braking was infrequent and brief. Downhill braking would be dodgy as the water would boil, but one could go slow down on the gears. I had a 1951 Hillman once upon a time which wasn't necessarily fully functional at all times and I could drive it by push starting it, changing gears without the clutch, and braking by changing down again, without the clutch. One could have the brakes with water in them just as an emergency boost to braking. By locking the wheels to brake, the fluid wouldn't get hot as the heat would go into tyre wear. Not lucky to be alive, just knew what he was doing probably. I rather have capable people using dodgy equipment they understand than incapable people using perfect equipment. Not many crashes involve vehicle defects and those that are, probably are due to driver negligence for not paying attention to how their vehicle is, and knowing what to do if there is a sudden surprise failure. But rather than put water in, he should get some of his engine oil and put that in. Or some of his diesel fuel. Those will float on the brake fluid rather than sink down through the brake lines, which the water might do. The high viscosity engine oil would also leak out of the master cylinder much slower than water or diesel fuel. It wasn't just me who played the game "This car runs on water." David Natusch, who was the Director of the Liquid Fuels Trust Board [a NZ government alternative fuels development group which was also involved in our methanol trials], also thought it would be fun to get some water added. But he must have been a bit careless [or unlucky] in how much water he got added, as he conked out on the forecourt [or maybe it was just down the road a bit]. He told me that later, when I mentioned my story to him. People who don't understand physics, chemistry, engines, geophysics etc can understandably think that there are evil-doing oil companies who buy up "runs on water" technology and hide it in a swamp or bury it alive. They are easily fooled into thinking that carbon dioxide is an evil-doing poison which is destroying Gaia's eternal harmonious balance [which does not exist and is in fact on a one-way trip from a hot and molten state to a frozen crystallize state]. Mqurice