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To: mistermj who wrote (208110)	11/9/2006 1:47:16 PM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

David Brooks is rationalizing. He doesn't know what's going on but he's whining because his creepy side is turning out to be about as popular as it used to be: not. We're talking about things like stem cell research which, in the dark ages, would have freaked people out along with in vitro fertilization which did freak people out. Now in vitro, and soon stem cells, will be old hat. That's not conservative, that's progressive. Harold Ford almost won, a Dem won in Missouri, Lamont with basically zero political experience gave ex veep candidate Lieberman a run for his money. Arnie had to move far to the left in order to get reelected and this against a completely botched campaign from his challenger. People want to preserve Social Security, they want universal healthcare, they want to increase the minimum wage, they want fairness and opportunity. These are progressive values. I know many people who say they're Republicans but who are really progressive and are fine if everyone, including gays, have civil unions. They also see the religious freakshow as just that, a freakshow, and no different at its core than the jihadist freakshow. What Americans lack is understanding. They lack the time and energy to delve into issues so they vote party lines and easy to understand 'social' issues. The key is to make the important issues: civil rights, fiscal responsibility, good foreign policy, clean government, economic growth, etc. easier to understand.

To: mistermj who wrote (208110)	11/9/2006 1:59:32 PM
From: sylvester80	Respond to of 281500

The Republican right wing neoCON ideology has been thrown out. The electorate will not stand for dumbass traitors like those. Neither for greedy corrupt politicians. The electorate is in the center. And it also voted for stem cell research and against right wing fundamentalist morons.

To: mistermj who wrote (208110)	11/9/2006 2:07:05 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

AMERICA'S PROGRESSIVE MAJORITY: Some have argued that the election results were actually an endorsement of conservatism. Columnist George Will predicted, "We could be seeing the creation of a more conservative House of Representatives than the one we just had." CNBC anchor Larry Kudlow claimed the "changeover in the House may well be a conservative victory, not a liberal one." Even the Washington Post, in a front page analysis, declared that the election showed that the nation "leans slightly the right of center." This analysis is seriously flawed. The election results were notably mixed: some progressives won (Rep. Sherrod Brown (D-OH)) and others lost (Ned Lamont (D-CT)); some centrist or center-right candidates won (Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT)) and others lost (Rep. Harold Ford (D-TN), Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-RI)). But according to a Media Matters analysis of the 27 candidates who (as of the morning of Nov. 8) had unseated majority Republicans or won open seats previously held by the majority party, all support a core progressive agenda. All 27 candidates back raising the minimum wage, advocate changing course in Iraq, and oppose efforts to privatize Social Security. Only two of the 27 oppose embryonic stem cell research, and only five describe themselves as "pro-life." In fact, the significant shift on Tuesday was the collapse of the "Reagan Coalition" voting bloc that had been nurtured by the conservative movement for 20 years. Majorities of every income category under $100,000; six in 10 of both moderates and independents; all non-college educated voters; and the majority of Catholics, all voted for change. In other words, the so-called Reagan Democrats -- economic-minded, working class voters concentrated heavily in the Rust Belt -- returned home to the progressive movement.