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To: Kevin Rose who wrote (4509)	11/10/2006 1:38:29 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

Then: boom, Iraq is story 1, and Afghanistan festers and rots. Iraq didn't have an enormous impact on what we were doing in Afghanistan. People look at that and think that the US is one of two things: liars or incompetent. Neither, or both if you count any level of dishonesty or incompetence, neither to an unusual degree, both to a fairly normal degree. And don't get me started on the 'Coalition of the Willing'. Outside of Britain, there has been no significant contribution by other nations. Which is not an effective argument that the action was unilateral. "Outside of Britain" - Well Britain is indeed there. "no significant contribution" - That doesn't equal "no contribution". Contrast that to the vast coalition that Bush 41 put together. We had more limited aims in that case, and it was in the immediate aftermath of Saddam's invasion of Kuwait. Such a coalition is nice to have, but not necessarily a decisive factor. If we didn't get a good sized coalition, it wouldn't have changed our actions much, or the result of the actions.

To: Kevin Rose who wrote (4509)	11/10/2006 2:39:32 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

Arsonists attack French Jewish school By ASSOCIATED PRESS Arsonists set fire Thursday to a Jewish school north of Paris that had been badly damaged in another arson attack in 2003, police said. No one was injured. Officers detected the smell of fire on an overnight patrol near the Merkaz Hatorah school in suburban Gagny, then discovered flames jumping from a ground-floor room. Two school offices were destroyed. Police believe the arsonist threw an explosive device through a window. Two other small fires were set nearby as well. One targeted an abandoned car and another was set in a a garbage storage room. Firefighters contained the fires in less than a half hour. Police opened an investigation. CRIF, an umbrella group of France's Jewish organizations, asked investigators to shed all possible light on the case. A November 2003 fire at Merkaz Hatorah destroyed around 3,000 square meters (32,300 square feet) of the school. At the time, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said the arson attack had "an anti-Semitic and obviously racist connotation." The attack galvanized French leaders' response to anti-Semitic attacks. Days afterward, President Jacques Chirac announced a tougher policy to combat anti-Semitism, saying that an attack on a Jew is an attack on the entire nation. France has Europe's largest Jewish community - and, with an estimated 5 million Muslims, Europe's largest Muslim community, too. Anti-Semitic acts increased in France starting in 2000, reflecting the rise in Israeli-Palestinian violence. In recent years the number has been decreasing.