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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Bill who wrote (81933)11/10/2006 8:15:14 PM
From: Kevin Rose  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 173976
 
One would have to be very partisan to think it was anything but a botched joke. What possible advantage would Kerry gain for the Democrats, or himself, by insulting the troops a week before the election? No, like a lot of the Bush administrations mistakes, this one has got to be simply incompetence.

Kerry is toast. He can't be trusted to say the right thing. Too bad, seems like a decent guy. But that's politics.



To: Bill who wrote (81933)11/10/2006 10:04:02 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 173976
 
You must be really stupid to believe for one second that Kerry would ever insult the troops after spending a good part of his career being the champion of veterans rights, and serving in combat himself. Kerry wouldn't insult our troops if you paid him ten million dollars.

If what you think were true, not only would the joke make no sense, but Kerry would have to be the world's biggest idiot. But if you put in the word or two Kerry left out (and you can see him skipping to the punch line, unable to read it properly) the joke makes perfect sense.

The joke was this, if you fail to study and educate yourself (like Bush didn't study Iraq) you get he left out the word "us") stuck in Iraq. That joke also follows the logic of the previous joke five seconds before where he stings Bush for being a poor commander in chief.

Anyone who believes any different is either a duped idiot or a dishonest Kerry rival.



To: Bill who wrote (81933)11/11/2006 11:13:11 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 173976
 
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You and the rest of the rightwing need many years off in the desert meditating about how you went wrong, how you sinned and how you tried to attack our Constitution and democracy. We can talk in about 8 years if you come up with something interesting. Until then, join the successful salvation of the American democracy and our unified attempt to end the chaos in Iraq, the corruption in DC, the rampant energy and health care gouging and the out of control budget deficits.



To: Bill who wrote (81933)11/12/2006 8:59:16 PM
From: American Spirit  Respond to of 173976
 
Pelosi backs Murtha for majority leader

(* SO in the Dem congress we will have a liberal/conservative alliance)

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent 41 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (news, bio, voting record), in line to become speaker of the House, stepped into a postelection power struggle among fellow Democrats on Sunday with a letter of support for Rep. Jack Murtha in the race to pick a majority leader.
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"Your presence in the leadership of our party would add a knowledgeable and respected voice to our Democratic team," Pelosi, D-Calif., wrote Murtha. The Pennsylvania lawmaker is widely viewed as an underdog in a two-man race with Maryland Rep. Steny Hoyer (news, bio, voting record) in this week's leadership elections.

Murtha issued a statement saying, "I am deeply gratified to receive the support of Speaker Pelosi, a tireless advocate for change and a true leader for our party and our country."

Hoyer has been second-ranking in the Democratic leadership behind Pelosi the past four years. He issued a statement saying he was confident he would win the race.

"Nancy told me some time ago that she would personally support Jack. I respect her decision as the two are very close," Hoyer's statement said.

Pelosi and Hoyer have long been rivals within the party caucus, while she and Murtha are allies of long standing.

Murtha, a former Marine who is respected for his knowledge of defense issues, gained national attention last year when he said U.S. troops should be withdrawn from
Iraq.

Murtha announced last fall he intended to run for majority leader if Democrats won control of the House, a pre-election jab at Hoyer at a time the Marylander was pledging support for Pelosi.

Both Hoyer and Murtha traveled on behalf of Democratic candidates during the campaign. Hoyer's office said he visited 82 congressional districts and raised or contributed $8.2 million to the party's candidates in the months leading to the elections. No comparable figures were immediately available for Murtha's efforts.

Since the election, Hoyer has released letters of support in the leadership race from senior Democrats as well as from more than half of the incoming lawmakers who won their seats last week.

In her letter, Pelosi began by noting that Murtha had requested her support. Noting his opposition to the war, she added, "Your leadership gave so many Americans, including respected military leaders, the encouragement to voice their own disapproval at a failed policy that weakens our military and makes stability in that region even more difficult to achieve."

One of Hoyer's supporters, Rep.-elect Baron Hill of Indiana, depicted Pelosi's letter as good news for the Maryland lawmaker. Hill said the letter was a statement of personal intent, adding, "She's not asking other members to vote for Murtha."