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To: Gersh Avery who wrote (4736)	11/14/2006 3:39:47 PM
From: mistermj	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

Seven of the first ten presidents of the United States grew pot No...they grew hemp. Big difference. George Washington recorded in his diary dates for separating the males cannabis plants from the females. This is only done to increase the THC content. There is no other reason for such separation. There is another more plausible reason for such separation, and that is to increase the fiber value of the hemp.

To: Gersh Avery who wrote (4736)	11/14/2006 4:34:50 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 10087

Did you know that the USS Constitution was called Old Hempensides? The namesake of the last remaining Constitution-class frigate was originally outfitted with cannabis hemp sails and over 60 tons of cannabis hemp rigging. Constitution's most recent restoration was planned with an eye on her 200th birthday. On July 21, 1997, Constitution sailed off of Marblehead, MA under her own power for the first time in 116 years. marijuananews.com "In 1824, domestic hemp was pitted against Russian hemp by rigging the USS Constitution on one side with American and the other with Russian grown hemp, 'and after being thus worn for nearly a year, it was found, on examination, that the Russian rope, in every instance, after being much worn, looked better and wore more equally and evenly than the American.' But the commander said, 'the difference between them was not so great as to warrant a declaration that the proof was conclusive in favor of the Russian....'" Dodge, C. A. 1896. A report on the culture of hemp and jute in the United States. USDA Office of Fiber Investigations. Report No. 8. p.15. mojo.calyx.net Hemp is the longest and strongest plant fiber. It is extremely abrasion and rot resistant and was the primary source of canvas, sail, rope, twine, and webbing fiber for hundreds of years before nylon was patented by DuPont in 1937. Hemp was used for clothing, military uniforms, ship's rigging, shoes, parachute webbing, baggage, and much more. Christopher Columbus' ships were fully rigged in hemp. The U.S.S. Constitution, "Old Ironsides," was outfitted with over 40 tons of hemp rigging. Because of the multitude of uses for hemp, the early Colonial American governments mandated its cultivation. Early American settlers even used hemp fiber as money and to pay taxes. Because of its length and strength, hemp fiber can be woven into natural advanced composites, which can then be fashioned into anything from fast food containers to skateboard decks to the body of a stealth fighter. sdearthtimes.com

To: Gersh Avery who wrote (4736)	11/14/2006 4:38:14 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10087

"Seven of the first ten presidents of the United States grew pot. The British insisted that they grow it. This is awful. I was trying to find the number of acres required for Old Ironsides (think it was 2K/year), and I stumbled onto this...The Founders didn't just look like hippies; they were hippies. Stoned, total FU hippies. Zounds. My socks and teaspoons; corrupt from the git... As a young man, John Quincy Adams (1767-1848), the 6th President of the United States, lived in Moscow. In 1810 he wrote a report On the Culture & Preparing of Hemp in Russia, which was included in A Compilation of Articles Relating to the Culture and Manufacture of Hemp in the US (1829). (29) Dr. Burke, the President of the American Historical Reference Society, researched the correspondence of the first several presidents, and in 1975 confirmed that seven of them smoked cannabis. George Washington preferred to smoke "the leaves of hemp" rather than to drink alcohol. James Madison was once heard to say that smoking hemp inspired him to found a new nation on democratic principles. James Monroe, the 5th US President, was introduced to hashish when he was serving as Ambassador to France, and he continued to enjoy the smoke until he was 73 years old. When Andrew Jackson, Zachary Taylor and Franklin Pierce served as military commanders, they each smoked hemp with their soldiers. In one letter to his family, Pierce complained that hemp was "about the only good thing" about the Mexican War. (30) rexresearch.com

To: Gersh Avery who wrote (4736)	11/14/2006 5:07:35 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10087

I know hemp was/is an agricultural product. I don't believe for a minute Washington was a pothead. It's like gays saying Abe Lincoln was gay cause he once had a roommate. The common usage, at that time, was to blend pot with tobacco. A little documentation would be in order. I don't believe it. ..FU's .< That may be your impression .. but a FACT?? What research do you base that statement on? Just knowing people who use dope over the last 35 years or so. You'd be better claiming - ah, they'd be FU's anyway. Why haven't most of the potheads I've known confined themselves to pot?< 1. Most of the pot heads that have let you know might qualify. Qualify as what? 2. You seem to be referring to the "gateway" theory. I'm not referring to any theory. I'm talking about the real dopers/potheads I've known. The vast majority of people that use pot never use any other illegal drugs. Therefor it should be called a "terminus" drug and not "gateway." I suspect there's something misleading in that claim. What I suspect is misleading is that the vast majority of people use pot do so once or a few times and drop it. And they never go on to anything else. But of the people who become regular long-term users of marijuana, I suspect the percent who go on to other drugs is pretty high. "I know a woman who says her husband has taken to smoking weed every night. Yet he still puts down a six-pack each night too. Why hasn't this guy stopped drinking?" Perhaps he should increase the dosage. Yeah, I guess if he smoked enough to be unable to pick up a brew ... Course, I assume he gets the sixpack first on the way home and starts with it first.