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To: Robert Beatty who wrote (59451)	11/14/2006 3:23:42 PM
From: Metacomet	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116555

"Republicans took control in 1994 and were in control during most of Clinton's terms." And nearly succeeded in stopping the legislation that forced at least a temporary turn toward fiscal sanity. en.wikipedia.org (A bill that every Republican in the House and Senate voted against.) Doesn't work. Urban legends notwithstanding, it is the GOP that has driven this train to the precipice. Tax and spend in the real world is far superior to borrow and spend. At least you still have the ability to recover. It is not clear that the endgame for the GOP's "trickle down", supply side policy will afford that luxury.

To: Robert Beatty who wrote (59451)	11/14/2006 3:30:11 PM
From: CalculatedRisk	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116555

The budget tide changed in 1993 and 1994. The GOP didn't take control of Congress until Jan '95 (after the '94 election). This myth about the GOP Congress needs a stake in the heart. The GOP Congress helped, but the main credit goes to Clinton. Also, all spending bills do NOT originate in the House. In practice the budget is proposed first by the President. Here are the numbers: cbo.gov Year ... On-Budget Deficit, Billions $ 1980 -73.1 1981 -73.9 1982 -120.6 1983 -207.7 1984 -185.3 1985 -221.5 1986 -237.9 1987 -168.4 1988 -192.3 1989 -205.4 1990 -277.6 1991 -321.4 1992 -340.4 1993 -300.4 1994 -258.8 1995 -226.4 1996 -174 1997 -103.2 1998 -29.9 1999 1.9 2000 86.4 2001 -32.4 2002 -317.4 2003 -538.4 2004 -568 2005 -493.6

To: Robert Beatty who wrote (59451)	11/14/2006 3:37:38 PM
From: regli	Respond to of 116555

"The President has little direct control over spending except for a final veto. During all of the Reagan and Bush years, Democrats had control of the House." You are omitting a crucial element in your argument: The Senate Reagan had a Republican senate for six out of eight years in office. gpo.gov "... 97TH CONGRESS (1981–1983) Senate Republicans: 53 (gain of 12); Democrats: 47 Republican Majority Leader: Howard Baker Republican Policy Committee Chairman: John Tower 98TH CONGRESS (1983–1985) Senate Republicans: 54 (gain of 1); Democrats: 46 Republican Majority Leader: Howard Baker Republican Policy Committee Chairman: John Tower Republican Policy Committee reconstituted to include the chairs or ranking members of each standing committee 99TH CONGRESS (1985–1987) Senate Republicans: 53 (loss of 1); Democrats: 47 Republican Majority Leader: Robert Dole Republican Policy Committee Chairman: William Armstrong 100TH CONGRESS (1987–1989) Senate Republicans: 45 (loss of 8, loss of majority); Democrats: 55 Republican Minority Leader: Robert Dole Republican Policy Committee Chairman: William Armstrong Republican Policy Committee launches RPC–TV on Senate cable system George Bush elected President, 1988