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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (8137)	11/14/2006 8:47:07 PM
From: Triffin	Respond to of 36917

They weren't doing modeling in the 50's. I know .. But we can use 50's data in today's models .. and demonstrate that the model can predict the current climate as observed .. Then I'll pay attention to GW prognostications .. Triff ..

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (8137)	11/15/2006 8:27:07 AM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36917

Go buy this book Unstoppable Global Warming The Earth’s recent warming trend isn’t a product of human activity, but rather caused by a solar-linked cycle that creates harmless, naturally warmer temperatures approximately every 1,500 years, write Dennis Avery and Fred Singer in their controversial new book Unstoppable Global Warming: Every 1,500 Years. During the course of their research Avery, an agricultural economist and senior fellow at Hudson Institute, and Singer, a climate physicist, assemble considerable physical and historical evidence of the natural climate-change cycle that ranges from ancient Roman, Egyptian, and Chinese temperature records, to harvests of historic wine grapes—which are the most accurate and sensitive indicators of temperature, the authors explain. Avery and Singer also examine and analyze Vikings’ tooth enamel in Greenland’s cemeteries, ice cores, seabed sediments, tree rings, fossil pollen, and cave stalagmites to document their research. The authors show that the science of the natural cycle runs counter to what many believe and fear will happen as a result of man-made global warming. They debunk such climate-change myths as the looming extinction of polar bears; the possibility of rising sea levels drowning New York; and famine caused by warming.