To: LLCF who wrote (24895 ) 11/16/2006 9:43:06 AM From: Solon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 28931 "You're kidding right... that's all you do here " No. I'm not kidding, and you know it. You know I have never burned religious dogma."In fact, you go futher stating that there is no truth in any relgious teachings " I've never said any such thing. Some religious dogma can be instructive as well as beneficial. Religions are created by man in order to influence people and events. This is not necessarily bad, but appeals to the supernatural are always fraught with certain dangers. Those inclined to believe what is asserted without proof (and everything and anything "supernatural" can obviously be claimed willy-nilly)can become dangerous followers of conniving gurus."the teachers didn't even exist in some cases " Most religious heroes and principles did NOT exist--quite right."you're constantly speaking about the evils of religion... as if there wouldn't simply be some other 'institution', cultural grouping, political party, etc to fill in " This is not a zero sum where a set amount of garbage has to be placed in one pail or another. The supernatural is an infinite realm of the imagination. We can have more fanciful bullshit in the world or we can have less. In general, religions were started to embellish the value of particular tribes. As such they generally showcase the worse of traits such as racism, exclusivity, hatred, elitism, arrogance, control, and so forth. You do me an injustice with your ongoing bitchiness and spite. I am not against fine and noble sentiments and thoughts such as the following sung by the great NANA MOUSKOURI which has more "spiritual" meaning in it than the Koran and the old and new Testaments combined. All over the World lyrics ( Trad. Arr. Joan Sakel / B. Blackburn ) As I've looked around At the life I'm living More and more I found Life is for the giving Children know the way Loving and forgivingChorus All over the world The children are singing All over the world You see them at play Why must we destroy The joy they are bringing All over the world Let love show the wayChorus Then we were very young Love's a gift for sharing But as we grow up We forget the caring Why must we go on Distrusting and despairingChorus Innocent and free Hear the children's laughter Why can't people be Happy ever after Let this song of hope Ring from every rafterChorus There in Neverland See the children playing Walking hand in hand Innocent and playing Can't we understand A single word they're sayingChorus twice _______________________Contrast that with a vicious story that claims a true (honest to goodness God) sent two bears to rip 42 children into pieces because they were being mischievous. Sorry, Dak. I stand by my criticisms of much religious dogma and the harm it does to humanity. I refuse to sanitize your gullibility.