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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (8168)11/16/2006 10:59:24 AM
From: T L Comiskey  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36917
 
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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (8168)11/16/2006 5:13:39 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36917
 
Despite my current low pay from Exxon, I came up with Jetozone in 1987 for filling the ozone hole. Dr Crutzen is adapting my idea for a similar function: <Dr. Crutzen, the Nobel laureate from the Max Planck Institute, has also drawn fire for his paper about injecting sulfur into the stratosphere. "There was a passionate outcry by several prominent scientists claiming that it is irresponsible," recalled Mark G. Lawrence, an American scientist who is also at the institute.>http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/27/science/earth/27cool.html?ei=5088&en=d0d351a5cf6b48d1&ex=1309060800&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

Wharfie, your biases and prejudices are showing. My patented idea of liquid CO2 injection was paid for by Mitsubishi, so they [my ideas] are obviously worth something, if only the cost of patenting, [though that particular technology hasn't been used yet].

Casting pearls before swine has never been profitable and can result in heresy trials, excommunication, hemlock, or burning at the stake. I tell you, the Earth really does go around Sol and not the reverse, hard though it might be for you to believe it. Earth is NOT flat, it's round. Earth really is not "in balance" but is and has been forever on a one way crystallization and freezing process. The ice age is just part of the trend, continuing as we speak. Note that the ice age is deepening and accelerating, not reducing. With luck, we can extend the time of the current interglacial, but we can't stop the next glaciation. It's going to happen. Just later than otherwise would have been the case without the CO2.

It's now so cold in New Zealand that we have icebergs attacking us from Antarctica. It's bleak. theage.com.au

As snow accumulates in Antarctica, it has nowhere to go but to slide off the land into the sea and then go roaming northwards until it melts, encroaching on our warmer waters. The more Earth cools, the more we'll have icebergs and we'll get glaciers in New Zealand again [which we have been happily free of for 5,000 years with them shrinking for 10,000 years].

Despite all our efforts at filling the atmosphere with CO2, we have only raised the level 30% and that's after 100 years of serious effort with 6 billion of us and lots of easy to get oil, Yank Tanks by the million and low-efficiency internal combustion engines on land, sea and in the sky. What's worse, 30% of the CO2 has already gone back into the ocean and is being wolfed down by the vast food chain lurking there.

Look, if you can get me on Exxon's payroll, I'll cut you in 10%! I have the environmental case for enthusiastic burning of CO2 and release of it into the atmosphere. Exxon wants to burn carbon. We should get together and make a lot of money.

Mqurice